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YTMND
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| I have just shown you a job teaching EAP with Kaplan which is 4.0 million won a month. |
I don't see any links. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I have just shown you a job teaching EAP with Kaplan which is 4.0 million won a month |
Let's drill down into the figures. The EAP job I saw on that site was offering an initial 180,000 RMB a year gross, which is around 2.8 million won a month. What would qualify you to get more than that as a starting salary and how much is income tax?
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China
Closing Date:
Ongoing
Salary:
RMB180,000 gross /year to RMB280,000 gross /year
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Kaplan Higher Education
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http://www.ncuk.ac.uk http://www.kaplan.com.cn
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[email protected]
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| I have just shown you a job teaching EAP with Kaplan which is 4.0 million won a month |
Let's drill down into the figures. The EAP job I saw on that site was offering an initial 180,000 RMB a year gross, which is around 2.8 million won a month. What would qualify you to get more than that as a starting salary and how much is income tax?
Location:
China
Closing Date:
Ongoing
Salary:
RMB180,000 gross /year to RMB280,000 gross /year
Company:
Kaplan Higher Education
Website:
http://www.ncuk.ac.uk http://www.kaplan.com.cn
Contact:
[email protected]
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I imagine it is like most places, higher salary will depend on qualifications and experience. I should imagine the 2.8 million won a month is the for the bare minimum regarding qualifications and experience but this is just one example. There is also the British council who pay around 2.4 million won for weekend work doing IELTS testing. I can see creeper having a heart attack now! 
There is also other examples of decent pay in a country with a lower cost of living within a growing niche market. Nothing against Korea, I spent a few years there myself but it is starting to remind me of Taiwan in the 1990's where after an initial surge of jobs, the EFL trend is starting to die down along with the wages and opportunities. In China, there are 280 million learners of English - which means opportunities are growing with it year by year. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| Do you do IELTS testing in China? To get that sort of money testing in Korea you'd have to be doing a phenomenal number of candidates on both Saturday and Sunday and I've heard IELTS pay is better in Korea. Do you know much they get a candidate in China? Also any reply on the question about income tax? |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Do you do IELTS testing in China? To get that sort of money testing in Korea you'd have to be doing a phenomenal number of candidates on both Saturday and Sunday and I've heard IELTS pay is better in Korea. Do you know much they get a candidate in China? Also any reply on the question about income tax? |
I did, weekend work though so it was eating up into my home life a great deal, but the money was good though depending on how many candidates you had for the day was the amount you earned. I don't know how much one earns in Korea, but on a busy weekend - that is around the amount you would earn in China. You would be paid around 110 RMB per exam. Downside, you cannot get a visa based on a British Council IELTS gig.
Income tax is dependent on where you are and of course the job. Some places you pay some and some places you don't ditto jobs - nothing uniform as of yet. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| You would be paid around 110 RMB per exam |
Is that just for the speaking test or the speaking and writing combined? |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| You would be paid around 110 RMB per exam |
Is that just for the speaking test or the speaking and writing combined?[/quote
Just the oral exam, 4 an hour and that is 440 RMB an hour. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| You would be paid around 110 RMB per exam |
Is that just for the speaking test or the speaking and writing combined? |
Just the oral exam, 4 an hour and that is 440 RMB an hour. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting, so the rate looks like it's higher in China. I wonder why |
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bmaw01
Joined: 13 May 2013
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bg03,
I'm 43 years old and this August will be my 2 year anniversary. It can be done. Don't listen to all the negative hate. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Interesting, so the rate looks like it's higher in China. I wonder why |
The EFL industry in China is massive. The BC just don't have the bodies to take on the demand that is there for IELTS - they actually fly people around and put them up in 5 star hotels when they are short - which is a lot.
I know of a guy in Suzhou named 'Bobby' who holds conferences about giving tips in passing the IELTS exam - he charges 100 RMB per head with a minimum of 100 people per conference - he is from the Levant somewhere - Egypt or Syria - but he looks smart and has fluent Mandarin - there is a lot of money to be made in China for switched on folks who don't mind working hard and there are the 5000 RMB jobs for 12 hours a week - whatever you want as long as you have what they are asking for - you'll find. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Has EPIK sunk so low that it won't hire people above 35? |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| you may get a job, but your ego must take a huge hit working here and teaching ABC's to 7-years olds at that age. |
Perhaps.
However, it is a great motivator to turn your creative energies elsewhere. Don't be defined by your job, and don't let others define you by it. Satiate your need for accomplishment / self-esteem by directing your energies into writing poetry, learning a language, writing a book, taking up the guitar, becoming a travel writer, contributing articles on Korea to newspapers back home, or a host of other things. Being an ESL teacher in Korea can, over time, knock your self-esteem. No doubt. But it opens up opportunities to do / create / accomplish something that you might otherwise never have done.
ESL in Korea can become a bit of a career 'lemon'.
Solution: make lemonade. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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That feeling is constant to me. I "teach" at public school, and feel that most of my job is waiting, like 70% is waiting 30% is teaching. |
ive done that too, but i ended up doing alot of business on ebay, which led the teachers to think Im some kind of rich kid who just hangs out in their country, I was like, Im a rich kid? Im old enough to have a grown kid now  Haha good memories.
I also want to chime in and say I think some guys here think there is some kind of hierarchy to the ESL world here, and thats just stupid.
It goes:
you are mid-20s
you live in Itaewon or nearby,
teach in a Uni,
and backpack in the vacations,
and maybe be on tv or radio doing voice work.
Thats all fine and dandy and all, but thats not it. For me, I lived in Gangnam twice in my time here, and I hated the job. I like hanging out there sometimes. but now I live in Gyeongi in a smaller place, and its a ton better, not only that, I met one more guy here who also lived in Gangnam, and now is happier outside, and makes more money! I taught adults, and now Im back to kids, and its much more fulfilling, and less stress!
A career is a good thing, and maybe in 1980s, it was a bit more glamorous, but now, THERE ARE FEW RULES....snd even here in Korea, Not everyone wants the same thing, and not everyone is the same experience. FAR FROM IT!
Id say: just make sure you are growing, and learning, and moving, in your ESL jobs or whatever. If you do that, you can always be "relevant" if that makes sense
I always avoid the "you have to be this, this, and this" crowd anywhere. I find they are rarely happy, or even successful! Just keep that in mind |
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mineybhoy
Joined: 18 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Is 35 too old to start ESL in Korea |
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| I've just begun the process of gathering my documents to apply to teach in Korea. I'm worried about my chances due to my age. Will I still be able to find work as a 35 year old newbie? |
I have been here for one month and I am 36. Go and apply for a job and get over here. |
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