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Kiwigoddess



Joined: 07 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Vacations - time off as per the contract Reply with quote

Just a quick question. Contract states 10 days vacation per year split between summer/winter. Just wondering if weekends can be included in those 10 days? My understanding was that it was 5 paid days off summer/winter, not 3 paid days off through the week and the two unpaid days of the weekend. Have I misunderstood or is my employer trying to pull a swifty?
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does your contract say? Does it say that you work Mon. - Fri? It should be 5 weekdays off not including the weekends or national holidays. What some places do is take a thurs to tues. off to make it look to parents that the school didn't take a full week off. You might have to fight for that extra day.
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Cacille



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is 10 WEEKDAYS paid vacation. Weekends are not counted. If they are trying to count weekends in - they are pulling a swifty on you. Tell them that you'd like them to call the education office - with you there so you can talk to them too if need be.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cacille wrote:
It is 10 WEEKDAYS paid vacation. Weekends are not counted. If they are trying to count weekends in - they are pulling a swifty on you. Tell them that you'd like them to call the education office - with you there so you can talk to them too if need be.



The education board does not care. The labor board will care a little bit.

To the OP, generally vacation days are given for work days! So unless you work on a Saturday or a Sunday regularly, those do not count.
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Kiwigoddess



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My contract states I work Monday to Friday and that I am entitled to 10 days paid vacation per year. I was informed today that summer vacation will be from Wednesday July 31st to Sunday August 4th and therefore returning to work on Monday August 5th.
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Teechuh



Joined: 15 Jun 2013

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boss tried to pull the same thing in my first year. I just stood my ground and insisted that weekends didn't count and she gave in pretty quickly. Not surprising as she was so obviously in the wrong. I felt bad as the Korean teachers only got three days but vacation time is too precious as it is in these contracts.
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Kiwigoddess



Joined: 07 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Teechuh, will do exactly the same thing.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Vacations - time off as per the contract Reply with quote

Kiwigoddess wrote:
Just a quick question. Contract states 10 days vacation per year split between summer/winter. Just wondering if weekends can be included in those 10 days? My understanding was that it was 5 paid days off summer/winter, not 3 paid days off through the week and the two unpaid days of the weekend. Have I misunderstood or is my employer trying to pull a swifty?


LABOR LAW ( http://www.moel.go.kr/english/topic/laborlaw_view.jsp?idx=254&tab=Standards ) says you are entitled to one (working) day of vacation time for each month worked
IF you have worked for less than one calendar year
AND you have NOT taken a day off for other reasons.

IF you have been there for a full year you are entitled to 15 days of paid annual vacation.

Sounds like Your boss is trying to pull a fast one.

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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Vacations - time off as per the contract Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Kiwigoddess wrote:
Just a quick question. Contract states 10 days vacation per year split between summer/winter. Just wondering if weekends can be included in those 10 days? My understanding was that it was 5 paid days off summer/winter, not 3 paid days off through the week and the two unpaid days of the weekend. Have I misunderstood or is my employer trying to pull a swifty?


LABOR LAW ( http://www.moel.go.kr/english/topic/laborlaw_view.jsp?idx=254&tab=Standards ) says you are entitled to one (working) day of vacation time for each month worked
IF you have worked for less than one calendar year
AND you have NOT taken a day off for other reasons.

IF you have been there for a full year you are entitled to 15 days of paid annual vacation.[b]

Sounds like Your boss is trying to pull a fast one.

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I guess that's another thing that's written, but not actually practiced in the hagwon business. Has anyone gotten those extra 5 days after working at the same company for more than a year? I'm thinking about negotiating for that next contract renewal.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try dropping a copy of the labor standards act (relevant sections highlighted) on his desk when you negotiate.

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Kiwigoddess



Joined: 07 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ttompatz. i got word today that i can have from the 31st july to the 4th august but because i will still be owed 2 days annual leave, hes offered me from 14th august to 18th august as well so effectively i get another 5 days straight because of the national holiday on august 15th. so i guess my question now is, do i accept the 2 lots of 5 days in a row or fight to get 9 days in a row? im not going out of country for summer vacation but am a little worried that come winter vacation time when i intend to head to japan he might try to break my holidays up again and i want the 9 consecutive days in winter for my trip. any advice would be much appreciated Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provided he conforms with labor law... the best you can do is ask well in advance and negotiate your best deal. Put it in writing.

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Kiwigoddess



Joined: 07 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thank u for your help Smile
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cjj681



Joined: 03 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My work has the same idea for holidays and did the same last year. It just works out that at the end of my contract I was paid for any days I did not take during the year.
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Porksta



Joined: 05 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you tell me which article of the link you provided talks about the extra five days vacation? Nothing I see talks about vacation at all.
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