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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: Morsi wins Egyptian Election |
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Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Morsi To Be Egypt's New President
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Morsi won with 51.7 percent of the vote versus 48.3 for Shafiq.
Regardless of the election's outcome, however, it is Egypt's military that remains in power. In the 16 months since Mubarak was ousted, it has assumed control of all key branches of state. Just before elections last weekend, the ruling generals dissolved Egypt's popularly elected parliament, which was dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood. Shortly after polls closed, they amended Egypt's constitution to strip power from the incoming president. Powers of arrest and detention have also been broadened. |
Morsi wins
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His designation as president-elect will hand the Brotherhood and its allies a bully pulpit to use the struggle for power with the military. The Brotherhood has sought to rebuild the partnership with more secular and liberal advocates of democracy that came together in the uprising against Mr. Mubarak, and Brotherhood leaders have vowed not to hold any negotiations with the generals without the participation of the other groups in their so-called �national front.�
But on its own, the Brotherhood�s control of the presidency will do nothing to reduce the calm the fierce polarization of Egyptian society. On Saturday night, a counter protest that reportedly grew to over 10,000 gathered in a neighborhood with a heavy concentration of military personnel to demonstrate in support of the ruling generals, Mr. Shafik and secular government. Mr. Shafik, Mr. Mubarak�s last prime minister, has campaigned with the support of the old ruling party elite as a new strongman who can bring back order after the 16 months of chaos. |
How successive constitutional changes limit Egypt's presidency
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A Military coup? Constitutional amendments � 18 June
The constitutional addendum announced by the SCAF on 18 June, as the presidential runoff polling stations closed, assigned yet more authorities to the SCAF.
The controversial document triggered mass protests across Egypt. Eliminated presidential contender Abdel-Moneim Abul-Fotouh called the move a �military coup� whereas opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei described the interim charter as a serious �set back for democracy and revolution.�
Thousands continue to demonstrate against the document in Tahrir.
Similar to the Selmi document previously rejected by Egypt�s political parties, the addendum gave the head of the SCAF, currently Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, the authority to object to any article drafted in the new constitution, provided that he believes it to conflict with the revolution�s main goals or with all previous constitutions, in which case he would then refer it back to the constituent assembly for revision.
Should the constituent assembly object to revising the contentious article, it would be referred to the High Constitutional Court, headed up by the military-approved El-Beheiry, whose verdict will be binding.
The president, the prime minister, the Supreme Council of the Judiciary were also given the same authority � In contrast to the 1971 constitution, where only the People�s Assembly and the president were given these powers.
The addendum further grants the SCAF the authority to dissolve the constituent assembly and form a new one if the current constituent assembly should encounter an obstacle that would prevent it from completing its work.
The SCAF would be responsible for deciding on all issues related to the armed forces including appointing its commanders and extending the terms in office of the aforesaid commanders, effectively making the military council immune.
The president cannot declare war without the approval of the SCAF. In addition, should there be domestic unrest within the country the president would have to ask permission of the military council for assistance.
Now that the president is no longer head of the police, effectively the president has absolutely no control over weaponry or an armed force. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| It will help if the Libyans manage to pull off a progressive revolution |
How is that 'progressive revolution' going?
With the Muslim Brotherhood ascendant in Egypt and Washington looking for any pretext to get rid of Assad--thus ushering in more men in beards wielding Qurans--it seems there is no stopping your 'progressive' revolution. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| It will help if the Libyans manage to pull off a progressive revolution |
With the Muslim Brotherhood ascendant in Egypt and Washington looking for any pretext to get rid of Assad--thus ushering in more men in beards wielding Qurans--it seems there is no stopping your 'progressive' revolution. |
You fail to understand that that's a good thing for us. A population living under a U.S.-backed dictator will gladly rebel and support terrorism. A population with freely elected leaders (even if they hate the U.S.) will provide less popular support for attacking America. And if they DO, we'll be all the more justified in a proper war instead of relying on drone strikes. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| It will help if the Libyans manage to pull off a progressive revolution |
Libyan progressive revolution. Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read in the last few years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqrsiqnArE
Progressive revolution. Only a liberal Westerner could say something so darn stupid. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Morsi beaucoup!
In addition to taking down the state media (standard practice), the Egyptian military also took down Al Jazeera.
The announcement
The Chief Justice of the High Court of Egypt will take over as President.
The latest news is that the military will arrest Morsi as well as 300 other members of Muslim Brotherhood. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiXOZFV7RNk
The Arab Spring is over.
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The ATLANTIC disagrees.
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes but what does Matt Yglesias have to say. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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So how's the Arab Spring going? Everybody remember Obama's Cairo speech? Good memories.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/15/us-egypt-protests-idUSBRE97C09A20130815
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| Egypt's government says 525 people were killed and thousands wounded in the worst day of civil violence in the modern history of the most populous Arab state. |
http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/egypt-back-to-the-intifada-20130814
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As the Egyptian military consolidates control by murdering pro-Muslim Brotherhood protesters and declaring a state of emergency, we may be witnessing the most dangerous potential for Arab radicalization since the two Palestinian intifadas. Despite the resignation Wednesday of Mohamed ElBaradei, the vice president, in opposition to the Egyptian junta’s action, the discomfiting fact is that most of Egypt’s liberal “democrats”—along with the United States—have never looked more hypocritical. If the bloody crackdown is allowed to continue while the U.S. and West do nothing, the actions of the Egyptian military could de-legitimize democratic change in the Arab world for a generation or more.
In Iraq and Syria, a newly renamed al-Qaida umbrella group calling itself the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is dramatically expanding its presence in both countries, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.
In Tunisia, where the Arab Spring began, the secular opposition and the ruling Islamist Ennahda party have grown more and more polarized, and two leading secular politicians have been assassinated. The secularists, apparently inspired by the ouster of Morsi in Egypt, have held daily mass protests in an effort to dissolve the national assembly.
Even in Afghanistan there is a danger of re-radicalization despite the hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives the United States spent there in what has amounted to America's longest war. According to a report in The Wall Street Journal, President Hamid Karzai is considering anointing as his successor the man who brought Osama bin Laden to the country, Abdul Rasoul Sayyaf, an Islamist warlord and the man who mentored 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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Hirsh, after watching a coup against an actual democratically elected gov, worries that maybe liberal democrats look hypocritical.
Basically, the idea with regard to the Arabs has been that we need to convert them into Swedes. Swedes like liberalism and democracy (and don't pose a threat to the Global Scam) to lets convert the Arabs to liberalism and democracy and spin it as tikkun olam and have the black guy make Soaring Speeches that the Huffington Post crowd cries over and then finally we will have peace. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson. |
I didn't realize Egypt even had a tree of liberty to water. I'm moderately certain all these people are watering is the weeds. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
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| "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson. |
I didn't realize Egypt even had a tree of liberty to water. I'm moderately certain all these people are watering is the weeds. |
They don't appear to have a liberty tree. Actually, the U.S. lost its last liberty tree in 2000. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson. |
Yeah? The tyrants have tanks and millions of rounds. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson. |
Idiot. |
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