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Wearing shorts to work (public school).
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it seems really unfair when you see the female teachers coming in with hot pants, tank top, and sandals. Then there you are in jeans or slacks, with a button up collared shirt and sneakers or dress shoes. I asked if I could wear sandals at least and that was a no go too.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends how old you are. If you're young, then it's a no go. I knew of a guy in his late 50's that wore shorts in the summer. However, it will not look good if you want to be renewed, things like wearing shorts will be used as an excuse if they want to chop you. BTW, he didn't get renewed. Not sure if age, or the shorts thing was more of an issue, either way the shorts were used as an example of how unprofessional he was.

Hopefully one of these days a really old principal, in a random school, will get pissed at no a/c that he'll show up in shorts one day and encourage all the teachers to wear shorts.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had worn shorts to a small country school years ago. It was just as the recession was taking hold though. So, still in the desperate mentality and maybe tolerated it more. Principal stared down at them though. Never said anything. Kids liked me well though and in 2 or 3 more weeks it was getting cool into late Spetember. So, long term was never an issue.

In my bigger city, I've never dared. I figured they'd be more by the book. Had a buddy from New Zealand try at the start of a second semester and the principal complained about it and he was never allowed again. He had a lot of waiting for the bus and the heat was really absurd.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do it and see what happens. If you're told off, you can later claim you thought it was best due to the uncomfortable heat.

I see teachers both male and female wearing open toed sandals without sox and one guy was even wearing Thai style fisherman's pants that were loose and breezy.

When I worked in Taiwan that was the order of the day - T-shirt, shorts and flip flops. They wanted to learn English and didn't care how we dressed. But the Chinese dress like that anyways - flip flops are their national footwear!
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Nolos



Joined: 23 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
I'd guess men (and women?) in power like to see womens legs but not mens.

Some of the female teachers at my school dress like they're on a date.

LOL I notice this, too. Like they're hitting up the clubs at 4:30 after school. Some of them look pretty cheap.
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always worn shorts in the summer teaching EFL. Even when I had business classes. Doesn't matter.
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nolos wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
I'd guess men (and women?) in power like to see womens legs but not mens.

Some of the female teachers at my school dress like they're on a date.

LOL I notice this, too. Like they're hitting up the clubs at 4:30 after school. Some of them look pretty cheap.


I almost certain that the principal, VP, and older male teachers told them to dress that way. Razz
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm With You wrote:
Just do it and see what happens. If you're told off, you can later claim you thought it was best due to the uncomfortable heat.

I see teachers both male and female wearing open toed sandals without sox and one guy was even wearing Thai style fisherman's pants that were loose and breezy.

When I worked in Taiwan that was the order of the day - T-shirt, shorts and flip flops. They wanted to learn English and didn't care how we dressed. But the Chinese dress like that anyways - flip flops are their national footwear!


What about Hakwons? They don't seem to care too much, except maybe YBM, Pagoda, etc? Even public school, I wear jeans, though never shorts. Sometime, I wear a t shirt, sometimes a polo style shirt, sometimes a button up shirt. I always look neat enough and have a clean cut appearance. But, many waygooks at hakwons seem to have more freedom? How about all of you who do, care to elaborate?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nolos wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
I'd guess men (and women?) in power like to see womens legs but not mens.

Some of the female teachers at my school dress like they're on a date.

LOL I notice this, too. Like they're hitting up the clubs at 4:30 after school. Some of them look pretty cheap.


I wish, but my regional city gets all the older more senior teachers. Don't get me wrong there's a lot of older K chicks with MILF like appeal, but a lot of them don't have that appeal, are married, and I prob wouldn't want to see it. Ha ha. Young pretty teachers end up in the countryside. So, if you folks get that, I'm jealous. Then again, I've known of a few tending to get bruned in co teacher evaluations by late 20's female teachers bitter about life and still not being married. So, maybe best avoided!
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Kiwigoddess



Joined: 07 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, i really feel for u guys in this heat. im in a rural area and am thankful to be able to wear a knee length skirt and sleeves to the elbows. i cant wear anything shorter or even put my hair up because i have tattoos. most of the kids have seen the tat on my neck anyway. i work in airconditioning so cant complain.
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sofaking



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Seoul Metro Government is encouraging you to wear shorts and sandals.

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From June to August, in particular, the city government will allow all of its officials to wear ‘Cool Biz’ clothing, designating the hottest three months of the year as the Super Cool Biz period, when officials can wear even shorts and sandals, in accordance with the good etiquette and dignity required of public officials.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fire Island muscle shirt and nut-hugging Speedo shorts: would that fit the 'Cool Biz' look? Laughing

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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go to far with the shorts and clothing. You don't want it coming up when other employers contact your present Korean employer. If you can just deal with the heat.
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaperTiger wrote:
my student broke our fan...no fan.


Could just buy one yourself... they're like 30/40 thou and you're on at least 2.1, 2.2 more likely.
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