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Julius

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: Domestic abuse higher among interracial couples |
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Interesting to see actual statistics.
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Ignorance leads to abuse in interracial couples
2013-06-12
According to a survey conducted in 2010 by the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family, 65.6 percent of married couples aged between 19 and 65 said they experienced domestic violence at least once during the last year.
The figure among interracial couples is even higher, 69.1 percent. For the survey on multiethnic couples, all respondents were foreign women married to Korean men.
Various forms of violence defined in the survey were included. When multiple replies were allowed, 13.4 percent of the victims in multiracial families said they were physically beaten. Mental abuse, such as using insults or swearwords, threats, or destroying the victim’s belongings, was reported by 21.5 percent.
More than 15 percent said they were subject to tight financial control because the husbands did not give the foreign wives money to buy daily necessities or managed the household income. Sexual abuse was a problem for 5.2 percent, while 22.5 percent said their husbands treated them as inferiors.
About half of them, or 47.2 percent, said that their husbands controlled their daily activities, including preventing them from meeting friends or other people, always wanting to know where they were, or suspecting they are dating somebody else.
The number of respondents of the survey, however, was only 307. Experts say the actual ratio of those suffering domestic violence is likely to be higher. |
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/issues/2013/06/179_137376.html |
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robbie_davies
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Is 'Inter-Racial' Korean men marrying South East Asian women? I would have thought they were the same race? |
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GoldMember
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:38 am Post subject: |
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A Russian guy once told me, "Koreans are special people". |
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Julius

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:12 am Post subject: |
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GoldMember wrote: |
A Russian guy once told me, "Koreans are special people". |
65% is an absurdly high figure. |
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tardisrider

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:42 am Post subject: |
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robbie_davies wrote: |
Is 'Inter-Racial' Korean men marrying South East Asian women? I would have thought they were the same race? |
Generally speaking, Koreans consider non-Korean Asians to be of a "different race". I think it is highly likely that this survey would include Koreans married to South East Asian as interracial couples. |
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robbie_davies
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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tardisrider wrote: |
robbie_davies wrote: |
Is 'Inter-Racial' Korean men marrying South East Asian women? I would have thought they were the same race? |
Generally speaking, Koreans consider non-Korean Asians to be of a "different race". I think it is highly likely that this survey would include Koreans married to South East Asian as interracial couples. |
Yes, Koreans consider other Asians a different race, on that count alone - the figure should be discarded - it would be like saying a French person and a Greek marrying are an 'inter-racial' couple. Anything coming from a people who believe they will die if they leave their fan on whilst falling asleep shouldn't be took so seriously.  |
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Threequalseven
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Race does not exist. We are all of the human race. What exists is ethnicity. That said, the difference between 65 to 69% shouldn't be the highlight of this article. The fact that the vast majority of marriages are abusive is what's really telling here. Looks to be a lot of jealousy issues in the ol' ROK. |
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tardisrider

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:46 am Post subject: |
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robbie_davies wrote: |
tardisrider wrote: |
robbie_davies wrote: |
Is 'Inter-Racial' Korean men marrying South East Asian women? I would have thought they were the same race? |
Generally speaking, Koreans consider non-Korean Asians to be of a "different race". I think it is highly likely that this survey would include Koreans married to South East Asian as interracial couples. |
Yes, Koreans consider other Asians a different race, on that count alone - the figure should be discarded - it would be like saying a French person and a Greek marrying are an 'inter-racial' couple. Anything coming from a people who believe they will die if they leave their fan on whilst falling asleep shouldn't be took so seriously.  |
I was just trying to answer the question you asked. |
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yodanole
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Anthropologists replaced "race" decades ago and began using the "gene pool" to describe ethnic differences. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:19 am Post subject: |
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The number of respondents of the survey, however, was only 307 |
This should send up a red flag on any statistical significance the data produced by this survey has.... |
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Ginormousaurus

Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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The number of respondents of the survey, however, was only 307 |
This should send up a red flag on any statistical significance the data produced by this survey has.... |
I agree. Though the next sentence states, "Experts say the actual ratio of those suffering domestic violence is likely to be higher."
I wonder what makes them think it is higher. Maybe the tendency of victims not to report it or not be willing to participate in a survey? Either way, 65% and 69% are already pretty high. Does anyone know what the stats are for domestic abuse in the west?
I wonder how many of the 307 respondents were foreigners? 307 is already a fairly small number considering the population of Korea. If, say, they only talked to 100 non-Koreans, then the statistical significance is even less. Though I don't doubt that domestic abuse is common among Koreans and mail order brides. |
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tob55
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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The number of respondents of the survey, however, was only 307 |
This should send up a red flag on any statistical significance the data produced by this survey has.... |
It does appear that the survey was intentionally designed to support the type of findings the authors of the study wanted to support. It would be interesting to look at their data and do a Cronbach reliability analysis. I ran a quick A-priori sample size analysis to determine if their results could be viewed as valid with a 95% reliability, and according to the results, they could have surveyed any number of people between 220 - 450. I could have run a number of other tests to determine other findings, but from the short amount of time I spent on testing the numbers, the amount of people surveyed isn't nearly as telling to the article as the type of things they were looking for. IMHO |
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goreality
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Domestic abuse higher among interracial couples |
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More than 15 percent said they were subject to tight financial control because the husbands did not give the foreign wives money to buy daily necessities or managed the household income. ....... while 22.5 percent said their husbands treated them as inferiors. |
15 points not enough spending money ...talk about abusive.
22.5 points not treated equal ...by him and the rest of society hardly a domestic problem. |
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OneWayTraffic
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:28 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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The number of respondents of the survey, however, was only 307 |
This should send up a red flag on any statistical significance the data produced by this survey has.... |
Not at all. Assuming that the data was random we get a standard normal error of 0.65*0.35/SQRT(307) roughly 1%.
Taking a 95% confidence interval we can estimate that the real proportion of couples experiencing domestic violence is highly likely to be in the 63%-67% range. I don't know the sample size of the interracial couples, but if it's smaller then the confidence interval will be wider, but still centered on the 69% quoted.
The only obvious fly in the ointment, is the possibility of bias from the method of sampling, but I would guess underreporting is more likely than overreporting in this case.
If you haven't guessed I now teach High School mathematics. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Ginormousaurus wrote: |
PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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The number of respondents of the survey, however, was only 307 |
This should send up a red flag on any statistical significance the data produced by this survey has.... |
I agree. Though the next sentence states, "Experts say the actual ratio of those suffering domestic violence is likely to be higher."
I wonder what makes them think it is higher. Maybe the tendency of victims not to report it or not be willing to participate in a survey? Either way, 65% and 69% are already pretty high. Does anyone know what the stats are for domestic abuse in the west?
I wonder how many of the 307 respondents were foreigners? 307 is already a fairly small number considering the population of Korea. If, say, they only talked to 100 non-Koreans, then the statistical significance is even less. Though I don't doubt that domestic abuse is common among Koreans and mail order brides. |
That quote does shock but then again 307 respondants is next to nothing. Also, for this to be statistically relevant and representative the sample needs to be spread out and diverse otherwise all this is is another flash poll that means next to nothing in terms of actual conclusions. |
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