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Poker



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: Grammar Help Reply with quote

Hi, I was given this message this morning from my Co-T. How do I explain this query?

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Please read this sentence.

"No other advertising medium is as likely to eat up your budget as quickly as TV will."
I wonder what functions these three ASs have, especially the first one.

Does the first "as" have the same function as the following second "as" has? "She was as kind as my sister."

I think the last as in the first sentence has the same function as the second underlined as in the second sentence has, right?

The second as seems to have the same function as the first underlined as has in the second sentence.

But, I can't understand the function of the very first as.


He isn't sure about having 3 "as"s in a sentence. "No other advertising medium is as likely....... as ...... as.

Thank you!
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War Eagle



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a simple as...as comparative with adverbs, except you have 2 adverbs (one adverb modifying an adverbial phrase).

To answer her question, the first two serve the same purpose, that is the first "as" in the as...as comparison. The third fulfills the second "as" in the as...as comparison.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he thinks there are too many, take the second out and have him read it.

"No other advertising medium is as likely to eat up your budget quickly as TV will."

The second "as" is partly there due to there being more than one adverb, but it also stresses/emphasizes equality with an adverb/adjective.

We could read it without but then the comparison being stressed/emphasized is the noun "TV". Try it without an extra adverb/adjective.

"No other meal is as delicious eating as eating spaghetti is."
"No other meal is as delicious eating as quickly as eating spaghetti is."

I think this is what Dr. Seuss books would look like if they were written for ESL learners Laughing


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Poker



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are great! Thanks a lot!
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War Eagle



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
If he thinks there are too many, take the second out and have him read it.

"No other advertising medium is as likely to eat up your budget quickly as TV will."

The second "as" is partly there due to there being more than one adverb, but it also stresses/emphasizes equality with an adverb/adjective.

We could read it without but then the comparison being stressed/emphasized is the noun "TV". Try it without an extra adverb/adjective.

"No other meal is as delicious eating as eating spaghetti is."
"No other meal is as delicious eating as quickly as eating spaghetti is."

I think this is what Dr. Seuss would look like if they were written for ESL learners Laughing


You could also omit he first "as":

No other advertising medium is likely to eat up your budget as quickly as TV.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

War Eagle wrote:
YTMND wrote:
If he thinks there are too many, take the second out and have him read it.

"No other advertising medium is as likely to eat up your budget quickly as TV will."

The second "as" is partly there due to there being more than one adverb, but it also stresses/emphasizes equality with an adverb/adjective.

We could read it without but then the comparison being stressed/emphasized is the noun "TV". Try it without an extra adverb/adjective.

"No other meal is as delicious eating as eating spaghetti is."
"No other meal is as delicious eating as quickly as eating spaghetti is."

I think this is what Dr. Seuss would look like if they were written for ESL learners Laughing


You could also omit he first "as":

No other advertising medium is likely to eat up your budget as quickly as TV.


Then you might as well omit "is likely to" while you are at it.

"No other advertising medium eats up your budget as quickly as TV [does]."
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War Eagle



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
War Eagle wrote:
YTMND wrote:
If he thinks there are too many, take the second out and have him read it.

"No other advertising medium is as likely to eat up your budget quickly as TV will."

The second "as" is partly there due to there being more than one adverb, but it also stresses/emphasizes equality with an adverb/adjective.

We could read it without but then the comparison being stressed/emphasized is the noun "TV". Try it without an extra adverb/adjective.

"No other meal is as delicious eating as eating spaghetti is."
"No other meal is as delicious eating as quickly as eating spaghetti is."

I think this is what Dr. Seuss would look like if they were written for ESL learners Laughing


You could also omit he first "as":

No other advertising medium is likely to eat up your budget as quickly as TV.


Then you might as well omit "is likely to" while you are at it.

"No other advertising medium eats up your budget as quickly as TV [does]."


We don't need "other" either:

No advertising medium eats up your budget as quickly as TV. Wink

When we remove "is likely to", it goes from being a possibility to a definitive though.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We don't need "other" either:


I don't know, that doesn't make sense. It makes grammatical sense, but logically, TV is a medium and it could be argued it is an advertising medium (still?).

You are still comparing "other" mediums to TV. So, I would keep it.

In spoken language, a person hears "No advertising medium eats up your budget", complete thought and inaccurate to the context of this sentence.

However, "No other advertising medium eats up your budget" is only a complete thought if you understand what is being compared. If you don't, then you are left hanging, listening to what eats up the budget.

Perhaps this is a way to keep the listener engaged. I know on a written test it doesn't matter, but keeping people's attention in a practical sense is also important.
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