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sluggo832004
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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I hated how in EPIK it was just the luck of the draw. A 23 year old idiot could be placed in a great area, with a great school, and a 30 year old vet could be placed in a shitty area where the school dosent want or care about teachers.
Hell, your korean experience seems to be the luck of the draw sometimes. |
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thisisausername
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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No that's not luck. They placed the better candidate in the better location. The attractive 23 yo will increase the overall well being of the class more than the less attractive 30 yo. This will help the harmony of the students to be able to study more easily. Also, as they have to pay the veterans more, they should be sent to the more challenging locations. Please understand the unique situation.
Very Good Candidate
http://i.imgur.com/2FTX8Bt.jpg
Lessor Candidate
http://i.imgur.com/R9KOLzgl.jpg
(see my previous post itt for more informations about the Korea)
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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No that's not luck. They placed the better candidate in the better location. The attractive 23 yo will increase the overall well being of the class more than the less attractive 30 yo. This will help the harmony of the students to be able to study more easily. Also, as they have to pay the veterans more, they should be sent to the more challenging locations. Please understand the unique situation.
(see my previous post itt) |
LOL. 
You've mastered the Korean logic. |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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The riddle has been solved.
| thisisausername wrote: |
No that's not luck. They placed the better candidate in the better location. The attractive 23 yo will increase the overall well being of the class more than the less attractive 30 yo. This will help the harmony of the students to be able to study more easily. Also, as they have to pay the veterans more, they should be sent to the more challenging locations. Please understand the unique situation.
Very Good Candidate
http://i.imgur.com/2FTX8Bt.jpg
Lessor Candidate
http://i.imgur.com/R9KOLzgl.jpg
(see my previous post itt for more informations about the Korea) |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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If I was from the UK I'd be lifing it in SKorea too. The women alone would keep me there.
The dating scene in the UK is just bloody horrible. Loud, binge drinking, fat , tasteless tramp stamp tattoos come to mind (wow that was harsh). No wonder you blokes love Seoul. Can't say I blame ya. |
The women alone will keep you there lol. |
lol.. what?! The women in London are MUCH MUCH hotter than Seoul... granted the Korean girls look more attractive on the suface when dolled up on a Saturday night... but there really isn't much diversity so one can easily become drawn to them if you simply like the Korean 'mould' considering there aren't many other options around. I have a Korean gf, but she doesn't look stereotypical.
I also noticed that, Korean guys who are say a 5... can get a Korean girl who is an 8 or 9 (basically dating above his grade so to speak), however it is very rare to see a foreign guy do this. The K-girls I see with westerners are usually higher than what they can get back home but by Korean standards... on the same level, e.g a westerner at a 4 gets a level 4 k-girl.
Now if you are talking about English girls, you may have a point... but bear in mind that more than 50% of London is made up of non-Brits. As for the dating scene... Korean girls are simply easier to talk to because they are often not on an equal playing field i.e lack of English and the manner in which they are 'chatted up'. In London, girls don't fall for that cheesy stuff you can pull off here, so you defo have to have game. I find it's easier to get girls here, because they are easy to impress - so that alone changes ones perspective. Try getting girls in Sweden... you'd have just as tougher time as with the UK if you don't have your shit together. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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lol.. what?! The women in London are MUCH MUCH hotter than Seoul... granted the Korean girls look more attractive on the suface when dolled up on a Saturday night... but there really isn't much diversity so one can easily become drawn to them if you simply like the Korean 'mould' considering there aren't many other options around. I have a Korean gf, but she doesn't look stereotypical.
I also noticed that, Korean guys who are say a 5... can get a Korean girl who is an 8 or 9 (basically dating above his grade so to speak), however it is very rare to see a foreign guy do this. The K-girls I see with westerners are usually higher than what they can get back home but by Korean standards... on the same level, e.g a westerner at a 4 gets a level 4 k-girl.
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Doesn't the fact that you and misher have such vastly different opinions about the 'hotness' of certain women suggest to you that categorizing people's attractiveness on a universal scale of numbers as you seem to be so taken with, is a bit pointless. Not to mention juvenile? |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wasn't talking about London. That city is ridiculously international and one can find anything there.
I'm talking about the rest of the UK...
Impressing women in Scandinavia is also no harder than anywhere else. Just make sure you have a somewhat decent job and some interesting hobbies to talk about.
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Doesn't the fact that you and misher have such vastly different opinions about the 'hotness' of certain women suggest to you that categorizing people's attractiveness on a universal scale of numbers as you seem to be so taken with, is a bit pointless. Not to mention juvenile? |
Well a lot of ESL teachers in S Korea are male between 25-35 which is prime dating age. Would you rather live there or a place where very few options exist.
It may sound "juvenile" to you but in the end men are men and I don't know about you, but I like women and I like dating. It's why I refused to go to the middle east money be damned. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wasn't talking about London. That city is ridiculously international and one can find anything there.
I'm talking about the rest of the UK...
Impressing women in Scandinavia is also no harder than anywhere else. Just make sure you have a somewhat decent job and some interesting hobbies to talk about.
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Doesn't the fact that you and misher have such vastly different opinions about the 'hotness' of certain women suggest to you that categorizing people's attractiveness on a universal scale of numbers as you seem to be so taken with, is a bit pointless. Not to mention juvenile? |
Well a lot of ESL teachers in S Korea are male between 25-35 which is prime dating age. Would you rather live there or a place where very few options exist.
It may sound "juvenile" to you but in the end men are men and I don't know about you, but I like women and I like dating. It's why I refused to go to the middle east money be damned. |
Fair point if you're talking about outside of London... I was just thinking capital city comparison. I can see where you're coming from.
Yes, Ed, it can seem a bit pointless if you are not well educated on the merits of female attractiveness on a large scale... whilst beauty is in the eye of the beholder for an individual girl... there are standards set by women for themselves and as such, most social forms of media and the likes of the beauty and fashion industry (both of which I have spent years working in), there is a unwritten scale. Conforming to this is arrogant but as social beings, especially men, we still banter about 'who is hotter' etc... people will always disagree... so is it pointless, in a way, yes but sometimes banter is good to express you perspective on the social dynamics that constitute 'hotness'. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well a lot of ESL teachers in S Korea are male between 25-35 which is prime dating age. Would you rather live there or a place where very few options exist.
It may sound "juvenile" to you but in the end men are men and I don't know about you, but I like women and I like dating. It's why I refused to go to the middle east money be damned. |
I don't know what you think I was talking about but I was just objecting to the numbers thing. I think it's annoyed me slightly ever since that eighties movie '10' in which Bo Derek was clearly, in my opinion anyway not a '10'. Other people will no doubt disagree but that's the thing about attraction. There's a lot more to it than Hollywood or the fashion industry's conventions. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| if you are not well educated on the merits of female attractiveness on a large scale |
Can I do a course in this or something to get up to speed? |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Seems from reading these and other posts that the U.K. has a racism problem considerably worse than in the U.S. or Canada. |
With the rise of the BNP and UKIP and the general anti-immigrant and foreigner rhetoric that is becoming de-riguer amongst the rabble - I wouldn't bring my wife and mixed race kids to live in the UK. That is if I could afford the 56000 pounds bond needed for her to get the spousal visa to settle. |
That is ridiculous! I come from the USA and I feel the same regarding bringing my wife and daughter. The governments are beginning to profit from those who legitimately could bring their families into their home country, while turning a blind eye at the loads of illegals entering their borders. I would say more, but the bottom line is that for me and my family, staying here in Korea is a better option, and even going to a different country might also be better than going back to the USA. |
They are just trying to placate increasing anti-immigrant tension in the UK - it only came in this year. They have made it pretty tough for us if we want to go back. If we did, we could go through the back door and settle in Germany which wouldn't cost us anything via an EU spousal visa and the 'Surinder Singh' route. It is all daft really. |
No way - the US is 100x worse, seriously I've seen it first hand and if it wasn't for the fact that I worked in fashion and have British accent, I'm sure I would have experienced it from the amount of times I was pulled over in Manhattan... especially if you're a person of colour.... stop and search anyone?
I have to say that as a black guy, I don't find England any more racist than the US or Korea... I would argue less so, simply because the punishments are so severe, whether it be in the workplace or socially, people really do think twice about it. 50% of London is made up of non-British people, my hometown (Nottingham) is one of the fastest growing student cities in Europe.
Now, if you're an immigrant, then I agree there is a lot more racism towards them but often from a view of the way the economy is going i.e "these foreigners taking our jobs" etc. And I agree that the system in general is becoming ridiculous (as if it wasn't already bad enough). A few bad incidents doesn't justify the view of the UK being "racist". I don't know of another city with as much diversity as London (NYC isn't for sure... though not bad-based on having lived there for 2yrs).
My g/f is off to London on Monday and when we move there next summer she'll prob love it in my hometown as she'll be a student. I come from a fairly poor family but we get by and my working in London, NYC and Seoul has increased my financial situation that I can afford to help family members with school/bills etc.
I say if you really want to go back to the UK, maybe try setting up in a different city... or if possible do a one year teaching qualification (MA in TESOL or P.G.C.E) if you can get student funding that way, you can give your gf/wife time to escape Korea and exlore (or study English), then when you return, you can look at a higher paying job...
...at least that's my plan for my PhD.
Ps, I do agree with you guys on many points though, just saying that it's not all doom and gloom. |
I ain't black but I have to disagree that the U.S. is 100 times worse vis-a-vis racism than the U.K. A black man can be president as Obama proved whereas it seems the U.K. has few non-whites in high government posts. |
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Old fat expat
Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:08 am Post subject: |
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if you are not well educated on the merits of female attractiveness on a large scale
Laughing
Can I do a course in this or something to get up to speed? |
Yeah, although lately I get this government warning screen  |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| ... so you defo have to have game... |
This makes my brain cry. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| cam83 wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| Seems from reading these and other posts that the U.K. has a racism problem considerably worse than in the U.S. or Canada. |
With the rise of the BNP and UKIP and the general anti-immigrant and foreigner rhetoric that is becoming de-riguer amongst the rabble - I wouldn't bring my wife and mixed race kids to live in the UK. That is if I could afford the 56000 pounds bond needed for her to get the spousal visa to settle. |
That is ridiculous! I come from the USA and I feel the same regarding bringing my wife and daughter. The governments are beginning to profit from those who legitimately could bring their families into their home country, while turning a blind eye at the loads of illegals entering their borders. I would say more, but the bottom line is that for me and my family, staying here in Korea is a better option, and even going to a different country might also be better than going back to the USA. |
They are just trying to placate increasing anti-immigrant tension in the UK - it only came in this year. They have made it pretty tough for us if we want to go back. If we did, we could go through the back door and settle in Germany which wouldn't cost us anything via an EU spousal visa and the 'Surinder Singh' route. It is all daft really. |
No way - the US is 100x worse, seriously I've seen it first hand and if it wasn't for the fact that I worked in fashion and have British accent, I'm sure I would have experienced it from the amount of times I was pulled over in Manhattan... especially if you're a person of colour.... stop and search anyone?
I have to say that as a black guy, I don't find England any more racist than the US or Korea... I would argue less so, simply because the punishments are so severe, whether it be in the workplace or socially, people really do think twice about it. 50% of London is made up of non-British people, my hometown (Nottingham) is one of the fastest growing student cities in Europe.
Now, if you're an immigrant, then I agree there is a lot more racism towards them but often from a view of the way the economy is going i.e "these foreigners taking our jobs" etc. And I agree that the system in general is becoming ridiculous (as if it wasn't already bad enough). A few bad incidents doesn't justify the view of the UK being "racist". I don't know of another city with as much diversity as London (NYC isn't for sure... though not bad-based on having lived there for 2yrs).
My g/f is off to London on Monday and when we move there next summer she'll prob love it in my hometown as she'll be a student. I come from a fairly poor family but we get by and my working in London, NYC and Seoul has increased my financial situation that I can afford to help family members with school/bills etc.
I say if you really want to go back to the UK, maybe try setting up in a different city... or if possible do a one year teaching qualification (MA in TESOL or P.G.C.E) if you can get student funding that way, you can give your gf/wife time to escape Korea and exlore (or study English), then when you return, you can look at a higher paying job...
...at least that's my plan for my PhD.
Ps, I do agree with you guys on many points though, just saying that it's not all doom and gloom. |
I ain't black but I have to disagree that the U.S. is 100 times worse vis-a-vis racism than the U.K. A black man can be president as Obama proved whereas it seems the U.K. has few non-whites in high government posts. |
OK, well I'm black and have lived in the London and New York. If you have experienced the racism first or even 2nd hand, please do tell. I am just basing it on my experience of the two. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:59 am Post subject: |
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if you are not well educated on the merits of female attractiveness on a large scale
Laughing
Can I do a course in this or something to get up to speed? |
Yeah, although lately I get this government warning screen |
Hahaha! I think you misunderstood me there guys. By being more educated, is to educate yourself by reading up on the social/psychological merits of attractiveness within the female mindset... or better yet, ask a bunch of girls about it and see how funny they find it (hint: they probably won't) - my point is that most guys aren't up to speed, so tend to banter in a general fashion about 'who is hotter'. Nothing wrong with banter on a forum  |
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