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boynamedcrow



Joined: 19 Jul 2013

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:54 pm    Post subject: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't tell me Korean immigration is now taking the lead from Saudi Arabia in delaying and rejecting applications for superfluous reasons rather than following a set rule of standards.
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maximmm



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Please don't tell me Korean immigration is now taking the lead from Saudi Arabia in delaying and rejecting applications for superfluous reasons rather than following a set rule of standards.


Not really - just YBM rep talking out of his/her ass.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

boynamedcrow wrote:
Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!


How did you manage to get an apostille on a Canadian document? Canada is not a member of the apostille treaty.

You can get e-printed at your local RCMP divisional office and get the results back quick as a bunny.

If you have a valid RCMP check done and it was certified by the Korean consulate in your area then you are good to go and the recruiter is blowing smoke out their butt.

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boynamedcrow



Joined: 19 Jul 2013

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!


How did you manage to get an apostille on a Canadian document? Canada is not a member of the apostille treaty.

You can get e-printed at your local RCMP divisional office and get the results back quick as a bunny.

If you have a valid RCMP check done and it was certified by the Korean consulate in your area then you are good to go and the recruiter is blowing smoke out their butt.

.


We have to get an apostille from the Korean consulate in Canada. I had his done on an RCMP check (non-fingerprint). I did this in person at the consulate and they didn't say anything about finger prints.

I think perhaps the company is using "fingerprinted teachers" as a selling point to the parents.

I really don't see what fingerprinting would accomplish.
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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

boynamedcrow wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!


How did you manage to get an apostille on a Canadian document? Canada is not a member of the apostille treaty.

You can get e-printed at your local RCMP divisional office and get the results back quick as a bunny.

If you have a valid RCMP check done and it was certified by the Korean consulate in your area then you are good to go and the recruiter is blowing smoke out their butt.

.


We have to get an apostille from the Korean consulate in Canada. I had his done on an RCMP check (non-fingerprint). I did this in person at the consulate and they didn't say anything about finger prints.

I think perhaps the company is using "fingerprinted teachers" as a selling point to the parents.

I really don't see what fingerprinting would accomplish.


You are wrong on many points. Do some research!!!

We have to get a "consular seal" from the Korean consulate, NOT an apostille.

The fingerprint process DOES NOT take 2-4 months, it takes 3 days to get an RCMP fingerprint check if you have your fingerprints processed by one of the dozens of companies or police stations with a LIVESCAN digital fingerprinting pad. It can take months if you do the ink-based fingerprinting.

A fingerprint check has some CLEAR advantages, but it is NOT REQUIRED by Korean immigration (aside from rogue immigration officers who may demand it).

Tell your employer to stop delaying and use the police check you gave them. If its rejected, then do the digital fingerprint check.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
Please don't tell me Korean immigration is now taking the lead from Saudi Arabia in delaying and rejecting applications for superfluous reasons rather than following a set rule of standards.


Not really - just YBM rep talking out of his/her ass.

(meant to post yesterday)

Possibly. A name check should still do fine. I would proceed with a normal name check, but do get the fingerprint check being done in the process. If you get accepted with name check you are fine. If not you have less of a wait. It should not cost the bank to do it slowly. Maybe another 25 or 30 dollars.

If you do not mind spending the money and you are in Canada. Consider going with a electronic fingerprint scan and application. I think that is a doable application now a days.
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boynamedcrow



Joined: 19 Jul 2013

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

Wildbore wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!


How did you manage to get an apostille on a Canadian document? Canada is not a member of the apostille treaty.

You can get e-printed at your local RCMP divisional office and get the results back quick as a bunny.

If you have a valid RCMP check done and it was certified by the Korean consulate in your area then you are good to go and the recruiter is blowing smoke out their butt.

.


We have to get an apostille from the Korean consulate in Canada. I had his done on an RCMP check (non-fingerprint). I did this in person at the consulate and they didn't say anything about finger prints.

I think perhaps the company is using "fingerprinted teachers" as a selling point to the parents.

I really don't see what fingerprinting would accomplish.


You are wrong on many points. Do some research!!!

We have to get a "consular seal" from the Korean consulate, NOT an apostille.

The fingerprint process DOES NOT take 2-4 months, it takes 3 days to get an RCMP fingerprint check if you have your fingerprints processed by one of the dozens of companies or police stations with a LIVESCAN digital fingerprinting pad. It can take months if you do the ink-based fingerprinting.

A fingerprint check has some CLEAR advantages, but it is NOT REQUIRED by Korean immigration (aside from rogue immigration officers who may demand it).

Tell your employer to stop delaying and use the police check you gave them. If its rejected, then do the digital fingerprint check.


It is an apostille. It says apostille. Apostille is what I have.

My local RCMP doesn't have digital printing.
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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

boynamedcrow wrote:
Wildbore wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!


How did you manage to get an apostille on a Canadian document? Canada is not a member of the apostille treaty.

You can get e-printed at your local RCMP divisional office and get the results back quick as a bunny.

If you have a valid RCMP check done and it was certified by the Korean consulate in your area then you are good to go and the recruiter is blowing smoke out their butt.

.


We have to get an apostille from the Korean consulate in Canada. I had his done on an RCMP check (non-fingerprint). I did this in person at the consulate and they didn't say anything about finger prints.

I think perhaps the company is using "fingerprinted teachers" as a selling point to the parents.

I really don't see what fingerprinting would accomplish.


You are wrong on many points. Do some research!!!

We have to get a "consular seal" from the Korean consulate, NOT an apostille.

The fingerprint process DOES NOT take 2-4 months, it takes 3 days to get an RCMP fingerprint check if you have your fingerprints processed by one of the dozens of companies or police stations with a LIVESCAN digital fingerprinting pad. It can take months if you do the ink-based fingerprinting.

A fingerprint check has some CLEAR advantages, but it is NOT REQUIRED by Korean immigration (aside from rogue immigration officers who may demand it).

Tell your employer to stop delaying and use the police check you gave them. If its rejected, then do the digital fingerprint check.


It is an apostille. It says apostille. Apostille is what I have.

My local RCMP doesn't have digital printing.


Canada is not part of the Apostille treaty, so it CANT be an apostille. Giving an Apostille IS NOT MENTIONED as a service on any of the Korean consulate/embassy webistes, however granting a Consular Seal is mentioned. So how you got an Apostille from a Consulate in CAnada is a MYSTERY to all of us.

Again, if you did some research you can find a private company that offers the digital service. Also, you can find a company with CARD-SCAN, they can scan your ink cards and its as fast as the digital fingerprinting.
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boynamedcrow



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

boynamedcrow wrote:
Hello,

I am applying for a job with YBM ECC in Seoul right now. I had already got my Canadian RCMP criminal record check completed, notarized, and apostille prior to applying, but the representative from YBM has "highly suggested" that I get my fingerprints processed by the RCMP as well. He says that many people are being rejected by Korean immigration without police fingerprinting done. The fingerprint process itself can take 2-4 months, so I am hoping to just skip it and hope things work out.

I would appreciate anyone's information regarding whether or not fingerprinting is necessary for the E-2 visa application process. I don't think it is, but it would put my mind at ease to have some feedback.

Thanks!


To be clear, it's really irrelevant whether the term apostille is appropriate or not. The required processing was done at the consulate.

Also, I state again that there is no place/company/office in my area that performs digital fingerprint scans.

In the interest of avoiding unnecessary expenses, my concern is whether or not it's reasonable to expect that another job could be secured around a similar start date without needing the fingerprints. This particular employer will not accept applications without prints. The job start is beginning of October in Seoul.

Thanks again
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newb



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Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The term in question is "authentication."
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maximmm



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

boynamedcrow wrote:


In the interest of avoiding unnecessary expenses, my concern is whether or not it's reasonable to expect that another job could be secured around a similar start date without needing the fingerprints. This particular employer will not accept applications without prints. The job start is beginning of October in Seoul.

Thanks again


Immigration regulations have not changed - and fingerprint based CRC is unnecessary in order to obtain E2 visa. As previously mentioned YBM rep had no idea what he/she was talking about. If you still wish to work at YBM, you could try to get a hold of a supervisor at the said company. Yet, one has to wonder if this is simply one of the first major red flags in regards to working at this hagwon - who knows how paranoid they'll be once you arrive here? Will they be entering your apartment on daily basis to make sure you are not doing anything wrong? Will they be checking your garbage bags?

Hence, I would suggest moving on in your job search.
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boynamedcrow



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:


In the interest of avoiding unnecessary expenses, my concern is whether or not it's reasonable to expect that another job could be secured around a similar start date without needing the fingerprints. This particular employer will not accept applications without prints. The job start is beginning of October in Seoul.

Thanks again


Immigration regulations have not changed - and fingerprint based CRC is unnecessary in order to obtain E2 visa. As previously mentioned YBM rep had no idea what he/she was talking about. If you still wish to work at YBM, you could try to get a hold of a supervisor at the said company. Yet, one has to wonder if this is simply one of the first major red flags in regards to working at this hagwon - who knows how paranoid they'll be once you arrive here? Will they be entering your apartment on daily basis to make sure you are not doing anything wrong? Will they be checking your garbage bags?

Hence, I would suggest moving on in your job search.


Thanks for the info and advice!

Cheers!
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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

boynamedcrow wrote:
maximmm wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:


In the interest of avoiding unnecessary expenses, my concern is whether or not it's reasonable to expect that another job could be secured around a similar start date without needing the fingerprints. This particular employer will not accept applications without prints. The job start is beginning of October in Seoul.

Thanks again


Immigration regulations have not changed - and fingerprint based CRC is unnecessary in order to obtain E2 visa. As previously mentioned YBM rep had no idea what he/she was talking about. If you still wish to work at YBM, you could try to get a hold of a supervisor at the said company. Yet, one has to wonder if this is simply one of the first major red flags in regards to working at this hagwon - who knows how paranoid they'll be once you arrive here? Will they be entering your apartment on daily basis to make sure you are not doing anything wrong? Will they be checking your garbage bags?

Hence, I would suggest moving on in your job search.


Thanks for the info and advice!

Cheers!


You don't need to be near a digital scanner. Ink fringerprints can be taken and mailed to a Cardscan location. Google "RCMP fingerprint cardscan" and you will have plenty of options.
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boynamedcrow



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Fingerprints?? Reply with quote

Wildbore wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:
maximmm wrote:
boynamedcrow wrote:


In the interest of avoiding unnecessary expenses, my concern is whether or not it's reasonable to expect that another job could be secured around a similar start date without needing the fingerprints. This particular employer will not accept applications without prints. The job start is beginning of October in Seoul.

Thanks again


Immigration regulations have not changed - and fingerprint based CRC is unnecessary in order to obtain E2 visa. As previously mentioned YBM rep had no idea what he/she was talking about. If you still wish to work at YBM, you could try to get a hold of a supervisor at the said company. Yet, one has to wonder if this is simply one of the first major red flags in regards to working at this hagwon - who knows how paranoid they'll be once you arrive here? Will they be entering your apartment on daily basis to make sure you are not doing anything wrong? Will they be checking your garbage bags?

Hence, I would suggest moving on in your job search.


Thanks for the info and advice!

Cheers!


You don't need to be near a digital scanner. Ink fringerprints can be taken and mailed to a Cardscan location. Google "RCMP fingerprint cardscan" and you will have plenty of options.


Okay, good to know. Thanks!
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