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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:15 am Post subject: Nazi symbol on uniforms at Homeplus? o.O |
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Friday I got dinner at the food court in the 금천 Homeplus: http://place.map.daum.net/8177044
This particular food court, instead of ajumma, has a staff of young men to clean the tables and do other related jobs.
This was a little unusual... But what was just plain bizarre were their uniforms. They were dark colored and cut just like a military uniform. They bore flags of various countries. On the right sleeve is a South Korean flag. On the left sleeve is generic military emblem embroidered with golden thread. Below the left pocket is a British flag as part of some emblem. Above it is a horizontal row of small flags from various other countries.
And what's at the right pocket? An obvious Nazi eagle, complete with a red swastika.
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Granted they have jobs, but these guys really looked like they are at the bottom of Korean society. Their uniforms gave them some appearance of dignity. But a Nazi emblem? Who thought up that idea?
I don't think there's any implicit Nazi sympathy behind the choice, but it makes one wonder... Since Germany and Japan were allies in WWII, what do Koreans think of that era in German history? Do they even learn about it? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Since Germany and Japan were allies in WWII, what do Koreans think of that era in German history? Do they even learn about it? |
They do learn about it but in much the same manner we learned about Japan's role in WWII (in Canada anyway). Meaning: the focus was on Hitler, Nazi Germany and their war crimes. Japan was part of the "Pacific War" and their war crimes got far less attention. The reverse applies to Koreans when studying WWII as their perspective would dictate this.
Germany was a distant actor in that war for them. Japan however was the main threat.
Now this would be for me and my wife's age group. Younger students today would probably learn even less about WWII in general.
As for the uniform, if it was indeed a Nazi symbol, it is in piss poor taste and it should be mentionned to the store. I certainly would have mentioned it to the floor manager or to their PR dept. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:03 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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Since Germany and Japan were allies in WWII, what do Koreans think of that era in German history? Do they even learn about it? |
They do learn about it but in much the same manner we learned about Japan's role in WWII (in Canada anyway). Meaning: the focus was on Hitler, Nazi Germany and their war crimes. Japan was part of the "Pacific War" and their war crimes got far less attention. The reverse applies to Koreans when studying WWII as their perspective would dictate this.
Germany was a distant actor in that war for them. Japan however was the main threat.
Now this would be for me and my wife's age group. Younger students today would probably learn even less about WWII in general.
As for the uniform, if it was indeed a Nazi symbol, it is in piss poor taste and it should be mentionned to the store. I certainly would have mentioned it to the floor manager or to their PR dept. |
All good points.
I didn't mention it because I felt a little sorry for the guys. They looked like especially harmless people, yet not especially sharp. |
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Mr. BlackCat

Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: |
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For an ally of the supposed Great Satan, to Koreans anyway, the Nazis sure do get a lot of play here in Korea. This incident isn't unique. There have been Nazi bars and Korean 'academics' who wax romantically about Nazi practices. In a country that thinks everyone around the globe should care about some tiny islets in some far off sea, Koreans seem incredibly insensitive about the greatest monsters of the 20th century.
I wouldn't blame the guys, they probably have no idea (though if they've played any one of a dozen video games (or read a book) in the last 10 years they should have a clue). It's like a 20 year old Walmart employee wearing an Imperial Japanese sign on his shirt. Though, Walmart would probably get killed publicly for that decision. Here, a swastika will likely be unnoticed by 99% of the people who walk through the doors of HomePlus. Those that do notice it, like you, will be called over-sensitive. And then another protester will set himself on fire over Dokdo and everyone will forget it ever happened.
To be fair, Korea isn't the only Asian country that gets it all wrong on the subject:
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-baffling-ways-continent-asia-loves-hitler/
Not to mention the biggest joke of them all, Japan (and Germany) ignoring that whole superior race thing as allies. Wonder how they thought that was going to turn out. |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Could be a religious symbol. They had those in Taiwan. Nothing at all related to the Nazis. |
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spilot101
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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
Could be a religious symbol. They had those in Taiwan. Nothing at all related to the Nazis. |
The swastika is a religious symbol, yes. The OP is mentioning the swastika paired with the Nazi eagle. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Would like to see some pics. |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Would like to see pics. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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optik404 wrote: |
Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
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Threequalseven
Joined: 08 May 2012
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I once caught my elementary students watching Nazi videos in class... You know, the ones from the concentration camps where they're throwing all the malnourished corpses in a big pile. So, the kids at Homeplus almost certainly know about it.
At the same time, Nazi symbolism is still western which automatically makes it trendy. I once saw a kid walking through town with a Republican elephant sweater on. I guarantee he didn't know what it meant - it's just a cute elephant with stars and stripes. I guess it would be akin to a westerner having a Japanese rising sun flag. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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DanseurVertical wrote: |
optik404 wrote: |
Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
Thanks. I'll just take a 3 hour bus ride and spend 40 bucks each way to check on that.  |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Threequalseven wrote: |
I once caught my elementary students watching Nazi videos in class... You know, the ones from the concentration camps where they're throwing all the malnourished corpses in a big pile. So, the kids at Homeplus almost certainly know about it.
At the same time, Nazi symbolism is still western which automatically makes it trendy. I once saw a kid walking through town with a Republican elephant sweater on. I guarantee he didn't know what it meant - it's just a cute elephant with stars and stripes. I guess it would be akin to a westerner having a Japanese rising sun flag. |
When I was younger I thought the imperial Japanese flag looked pretty cool. I didn't know about the infamy of the period until I was an undergraduate student. However, that flag is not so unlike the ordinary Japanese sun flag. While, an eagle w/ swastika is distinctly National Socialist.
On a related note, there is some moronic brand name called BOY London that has some popularity in Asia. What's their logo? Nazi eagle. However, the swastika has been omitted.
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The swastika on these uniforms is tiny but clearly stands out in red. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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DanseurVertical wrote: |
optik404 wrote: |
Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
Thanks. I'll just take a 3 hour bus ride and spend 40 bucks each way to check on that.  |
So, instead you'd like the op to go and take pictures for you to satisfy your curiosity?  |
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Seoulman69
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