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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| It might be worth shooting an e-mail to Tesco, a British company, and informing them of what's up in one of their stores. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Why is this surprising?
Ask your students who Harry S. Truman is...you'll get no response. Hell, most don't even know when the Korean War was, let alone any facts surrounding it.
Ignorance, that's all there is on this island. |
Are you trying to be funny, troll? |
Unfortunately, he's right about the Korean War bit. There were some reports a few months ago in the newspaper... the younger generation knew VERY little about the Korean war.
It's not too surprising they know even less about the conflicts in Europe. |
This is true. Sadly that kind of fading of historic knowledge seems to be pretty wide spread. They had a survey in Canada last year (published in the Globe and Mail if memory serves) and the majority of high school students and early 20s had piss poor knowledge of WWII, of who fought and why. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| This is true. Sadly that kind of fading of historic knowledge seems to be pretty wide spread. They had a survey in Canada last year (published in the Globe and Mail if memory serves) and the majority of high school students and early 20s had piss poor knowledge of WWII, of who fought and why. |
That's <profanity edit> weak. The British, Americans, Canadians, Australian, New Zealand, and South Africans should all be proud that their ancestors came together to stop the spread of a truly evil force. Both my grandfathers fought the Japanese. Many posters here probably had relatives that fought in the war. To forget, or be ignorant, of that is insulting to those who fought for what was right. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| It might be worth shooting an e-mail to Tesco, a British company, and informing them of what's up in one of their stores. |
Absolutely. And I shall. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| This is true. Sadly that kind of fading of historic knowledge seems to be pretty wide spread. They had a survey in Canada last year (published in the Globe and Mail if memory serves) and the majority of high school students and early 20s had piss poor knowledge of WWII, of who fought and why. |
That's < > weak. The British, Americans, Canadians, Australian, New Zealand, and South Africans should all be proud that their ancestors came together to stop the spread of a truly evil force. Both my grandfathers fought the Japanese. Many posters here probably had relatives that fought in the war. To forget, or be ignorant, of that is insulting to those who fought for what was right. |
My grandfather fought on the German front...
Two generations is not a very long time.
One reason I raised the question of Korean knowledge is that when I taught here in 2011, one popular controversial issue was making history an optional high school level course. That included Korean history, too. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't expect pics when I read the OP. But then someone asked if he had a pic and he gave a rather flippant reply. It was just bad form- Posting something and then telling everyone else "Well if you care so much about it, why don't you go there?" Not, "Didn't have a chance to get a pic, if anyone is in that area, maybe they can get one?" Or "Anyone visit that Costco? Can they confirm?" etc. etc. |
I was replying to someone whose only engagement in the discussion was the sentence, "Would like to see pics."
If someone thinks I made the story up, go to the Homeplus store for yourself.
You yourself can't very well do that Steelrails, but someone else can.
One of the major questions I raised in the OP is whether or not Korean people learn about the Third Reich. I mean, somebody found this emblem somewhere - did the person truly know nothing of its history?
I did not intend the OP to be a story like the Lock Ness Monster. These workers are at Homeplus everyday, I assume. I had not expected people to be skeptical, or for that to become the main issue of the discussion. Even if I had taken and shared a picture, how would you know that it's at Homeplus in Korea? Or that the picture is of an employee uniform? |
Don't sweat it, man. Your experience vaguely hints at something negative about Korea, so to some people here it will never be true. Even if you provided pics, they would say it was photoshopped or staged or out of context. If you proved that wasn't the case then they would find something on the internet from 2003 in the US where a corporation did something stupid and blame you for ignoring things from home while criticizing Korea. Or they'll call you oversensitive or that the Nazis weren't that bad or that, if you turn your head juuuuuuuust right it's actually a Buddhist symbol with a dove flying over it. Your experiences are not real unless they align perfectly with these people's pre-conceived ideas about Korea. Don't believe for one minute that pictures would change anything. |
Well this is one of those tricky situations where anyone reading could agree the nazi uniform is in very poor taste. There is no excuse to be made, so the obvious tactic in an open and shut case like this is to continue demanding proof, statistics, pictures, journal entries, fingerprints, tax documents, etc. Just let it be known if you are going to bring the negativity, it's going to be a drawn out process that will be so painful that you won't bother the next time. When it's over and all the necessary verification has been carried out the OP may forget what the topic was altogether, or all the effort may be used to show that the OP must truly hate Korea, because why else would he go through all that trouble just to shame some poor Korean company?
I need to see a picture. Oh, you actually took a picture? Dude you are crazy...what are you on some personal mission to make Korea look bad?
I've actually seen these uniforms on more than one occasion, I haven't seen them at the homeplus though. I haven't seen them being used as a work uniform either, as far as I knew it was just what the people I saw chose to buy and wear that day. I think this is worse because it's a company using it. They might actually appreciate a customer letting them know the impact that might have on their business with foreign customers.
Here's an example of a letter about the Japanese Flag.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/korean-zombie-asks-georges-st-pierre-stop-wearing-164004367--mma.html
I think Chang Sung Jung did a pretty good job of explaining the situation and GSP handled it well. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Your full post seemed a little booze-inspired (maybe not), but either way, this link is good. |
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