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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Recently returned from a vacation in the USA. Prices were higher than a few years ago, but far cheaper than Korea.
Buy some toddler clothes at Walmart and compare to E-mart for a serious wake-up call, Waygookin74. Especially shoes. |
I think prices and overall living costs in America are cheaper than Canada's, as long as you don't live on the coasts (ie Southern California). But, the east coast of Canada is sparsely populated and shouldn't be that high. But, it's insane how much it is (though I'm guessing Vancouver is the worst place in the country for costs). Have some family in the mid west states and they say it's cheaper than eastern Canada. |
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salutbonjour
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone who rides a motorcycle will understand the difference:
Taxes on a 650R in Quebec: 1400$ a year.
Taxes on a 650R in Korea: 9$ a year. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Weigookin74 wrote: |
Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Recently returned from a vacation in the USA. Prices were higher than a few years ago, but far cheaper than Korea.
Buy some toddler clothes at Walmart and compare to E-mart for a serious wake-up call, Waygookin74. Especially shoes. |
I think prices and overall living costs in America are cheaper than Canada's, as long as you don't live on the coasts (ie Southern California). But, the east coast of Canada is sparsely populated and shouldn't be that high. But, it's insane how much it is (though I'm guessing Vancouver is the worst place in the country for costs). Have some family in the mid west states and they say it's cheaper than eastern Canada. |
The Maritimes constitute one of the most remote regions of North America. I'm guessing that's why things are so expensive there. |
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beison
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Obviously it depends on what you do.
It's pretty standard that specific things (hobbies, food, what not) are pricier in Korea and then service based things are cheaper.
But look at the whole cost of survival: Included sales taxes, ridiculously low income taxes (compared to the US tax rate anyway), really low medical care costs (again, compared to the US), and the fact that tipping is not part of any cost create a situation where it's significantly cheaper to live in Korea than it is in the US.
Here's a good example: You go to buy a six pack of a craft brew in Chicago. It costs $8.99, not too bad. Then you go and slap on the county tax, state tax, federal tax, and the city tax (alcohol taxes are a bitch) and you're up to a staggering ~20% tax! now your six pack is close to 11 bucks!
Factor this into every purchase you make, and you realize that any sticker price you might see is going to be 7-11% more expensive, and suddenly korean prices start to look a whole lot cheaper. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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It also seems that in the West, they're thinking of new ways to rip people off.
Airports have a new moneymaking ruse this summer - charging passengers for a chaperone to take them through their terminals.
Manchester Airport has introduced a Friendly Guides service that costs £50 for a party of up to four people, while the Gatwick First concierge guiding service, launched in April, will set a couple or family back £99. No doubt these ideas can reduce airport stress.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2362892/The-Crafty-Traveller-Make-sure-costs-dont-airport-terminal.html |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yaya wrote: |
It also seems that in the West, they're thinking of new ways to rip people off.
Airports have a new moneymaking ruse this summer - charging passengers for a chaperone to take them through their terminals.
Manchester Airport has introduced a Friendly Guides service that costs £50 for a party of up to four people, while the Gatwick First concierge guiding service, launched in April, will set a couple or family back £99. No doubt these ideas can reduce airport stress.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2362892/The-Crafty-Traveller-Make-sure-costs-dont-airport-terminal.html |
It's optional, isn't it? I don't see why an overpriced service is anything to get upset about unless you have to use it as a condition of flying. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Beison, what makes it cheaper for me here are: taxes and having no car. And teachers think they are well-covered with just national healthcare. They are not.
Health insurance is no longer so "cheap", and the generally young population of teachers have no clue how much in debt they will be if they have a serious accident which national insurance will not cover. The young, hopefully, never need to find out that they are actually under-insured by national healthcare alone.
If I didn't have a car (not really an option in Iowa, where I am from) and very basic insurance with little major medical help as a part, my life would be a lot cheaper back home, too.
As it is, our entire family has an additional individual insurance policy in Korea. Combined, they cost us an additional 275,000 per month or so, for our family of three.
I will say that I appreciate my school's extensive yearly free health check, although they take way too many x-rays and scans that emit radiation. The dentists are also x-ray happy.
Life here can be cheap, but only if you forgo having conveniences which are somewhat necessities back home (or here, too). |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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cdninkorea wrote: |
Yaya wrote: |
It also seems that in the West, they're thinking of new ways to rip people off.
Airports have a new moneymaking ruse this summer - charging passengers for a chaperone to take them through their terminals.
Manchester Airport has introduced a Friendly Guides service that costs £50 for a party of up to four people, while the Gatwick First concierge guiding service, launched in April, will set a couple or family back £99. No doubt these ideas can reduce airport stress.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2362892/The-Crafty-Traveller-Make-sure-costs-dont-airport-terminal.html |
It's optional, isn't it? I don't see why an overpriced service is anything to get upset about unless you have to use it as a condition of flying. |
Still, what a ripoff. |
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beison
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Beison, what makes it cheaper for me here are: taxes and having no car. And teachers think they are well-covered with just national healthcare. They are not.
Health insurance is no longer so "cheap", and the generally young population of teachers have no clue how much in debt they will be if they have a serious accident which national insurance will not cover. The young, hopefully, never need to find out that they are actually under-insured by national healthcare alone.
If I didn't have a car (not really an option in Iowa, where I am from) and very basic insurance with little major medical help as a part, my life would be a lot cheaper back home, too.
As it is, our entire family has an additional individual insurance policy in Korea. Combined, they cost us an additional 275,000 per month or so, for our family of three.
I will say that I appreciate my school's extensive yearly free health check, although they take way too many x-rays and scans that emit radiation. The dentists are also x-ray happy.
Life here can be cheap, but only if you forgo having conveniences which are somewhat necessities back home (or here, too). |
Good post. Seems like your family premiums are close to the same as a good company sponsored healthcare insurance program in america.
The only difference though, is that in America from my experience, even the cost of the deductible/co-pay for treatment and medications for stuff that is covered by my insurance has worked out to be significantly more expensive than the uninsured treatment price in Korea.
Actually I'm headed back to Korea on August 8th--first time in 2.5 years, and I'm quite interested in seeing how expensive/cheap things are. From memory, during my teaching stint in 2010/2011, it felt like life was significantly cheaper than my American life... But maybe it's all rose colored memories and not that much better.
All I do know, is that say you pay for a movie in America and Korea. The price in America is $10, and the price in Korea is 10,000W.
The American movie actually will cost ~$10.90USD (tax) and the Korean Movie will cost ~8.90USD (exchange rate).
So while it's easy to just look at the prices and think it's essentially an end retail value to consumer of $1=1000W it's really quite different once you factor in taxes.
Especially different if tip is involved. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Unless you're a tourist, I'm not sure that taking an exchange rate = cost comparison route is the best way to look at things. |
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beison
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Or unless you get paid in US dollars (a few of my multinational business friends do, and they are stationed in seoul.) Or if you're in the military living off base this would apply too.
But even if you're paid in Won, I remember when I was I would still kind of think that a 4000 coffee drink at a cafe was about the same as a $4 starbucks coffee beverage. But the end price isn't--they're about 15-20% different. |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: La Florida
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Even just addressing my own personal considerations, the lists of what constitutes a luxury and what constitutes a necessity vary widely between Korea and the US. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
Unless you're a tourist, I'm not sure that taking an exchange rate = cost comparison route is the best way to look at things. |
The people on this board live in Korea, and they wire money back, and spend money in Korea. This is a foreign teachers in Korea board and those people may be posting and reading this board. The exchange rate and buying power in Korea may matter to them. Is that something you may consider as a possibility? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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dairyairy wrote: |
Captain Corea wrote: |
Unless you're a tourist, I'm not sure that taking an exchange rate = cost comparison route is the best way to look at things. |
The people on this board live in Korea, and they wire money back, and spend money in Korea. This is a foreign teachers in Korea board and those people may be posting and reading this board. The exchange rate and buying power in Korea may matter to them. Is that something you may consider as a possibility? |
If you're paid in won and you buy stuff in Korea in won - then the exchange rate fluctuations are not really related to cost of living/prices.
If you want to talk about wiring money overseas, then for sure(!), exchange rates are relevant. But if you're talking about the price of buying a bunch of bananas on payday, then no, it's not all that important. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to talk about wiring money overseas, then for sure(!), exchange rates are relevant. But if you're talking about the price of buying a bunch of bananas on payday, then no, it's not all that important |
It depends on the exchange rate and if a product is imported.If it's not imported then the price should be the same. Is that what always happens in Korea? |
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