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peachKitten713



Joined: 13 May 2013

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Is this fishy? No flight yet :/ Reply with quote

I'm going to try to keep this short because I guess that regardless of other things in the process that were unpleasant or took a bit more time than expected, I should just focus on the current situation.

So here is the story:
I was offered a job over a month ago and my documents were in Korea within 4 days. I eventually got the visa issuance number, and then had my visa in my passport in a week. So now it's at the point where I am ready to hop on the plane, but my school still hasn't given me my flight information. Two weeks ago, the guy I've been corresponding with told me that they would probably book my flight for that weekend. (Two weekends have come and gone...) A couple days later he gave me the email address of the person who is responsible for booking my flight. I emailed the person a couple of times over the next week but got no response.

So, last week I just called Korea in the middle of the night and ended up talking to the flight guy/manager who apologized and said 1) there must have been some miscommunication between him and the other guy because he didn't even know I'd had my visa ready and 2) he'd been out of town so hadn't seen my emails. He then told me to email him my flight departure city (which I'd already told to the other guy) and my passport info page. He replied to that email within the hour and told me they would get to work on it asap.

I was thinking... wow, what if I hadn't called?!....
I sent him another email a few days ago, but no reply yet.

Can they rescind my offer if I'm 'bothering them' too much? (Is even this post too risky?) I've been going back and forth about posting something like this for awhile because I feel it sounds rather whiny and impatient. But I finally decided to just do it so I can get my worries off my chest and see what others are thinking.
I feel like they must not want me very much since they don't seem to be in any rush to get me there. I told them before that I am ready to leave asap. Gee can someone just sit down for 20 minutes and book my flight? (<-- little rant ^.^)
I guess it hasn't been an obscenely long time or anything. So I know I'm being a tad paranoid, but I'm ready to be in Korea and this whole process has been sooo... stressful.


Anyway, point of the story/ramble (TL;DR?): I still haven't received flight information and do I have any reason to worry? How long does it usually take to be in Korea from the time you get your visa in the passport?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you were replaced locally and since they are not "out-of-pocket" for anything yet they are in to rush to buy a ticket.

If you are American your visa won't expire for a year and with the visa in your passport you can't take another job in Korea so they can wait till they need you or just let you blow in the wind.

(if you are not American then the visa expires in 90 days and you can try again but you will need new documents to do it)

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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren't being whiny or impatient. If I were in your situation I'd figure it's not going to happen. Koreans can be very uncommunicative and indirect if there is bad news.
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War Eagle



Joined: 15 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week was the biggest holiday week of the year in Korea. People have other things going on. If it doesn't get resolved in the next couple of days, then start to worry.
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IPayInCash



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah the old "I was out of town and didnt get your email excuse."

Youre a new teacher. They KNOW what they need to do. Agreed with ttompatz, they hired someone else locally and are keeping you on the hook as insurance. It happened to me. But I hadnt gotten the confirmation number so I was lucky. Wow youre screwed if youre from the States Im sorry about that. Just hope they come through. Scumbag move on their part.
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actionjackson



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPayInCash wrote:
Ah the old "I was out of town and didnt get your email excuse."

This is especially true since pretty much anyone under 50 has a smart phone and are constantly on it. They got the email.
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beentheredonethat777



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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quote="IPayInCash"]Ah the old "I was out of town and didnt get your email excuse."

Youre a new teacher. They KNOW what they need to do. Agreed with ttompatz, they hired someone else locally and are keeping you on the hook as insurance. It happened to me. But I hadnt gotten the confirmation number so I was lucky. Wow youre screwed if youre from the States Im sorry about that. Just hope they come through. Scumbag move on their part.
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^^. This. 100%. very, very common. Sorry!
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peachKitten713



Joined: 13 May 2013

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... To everyone who posted, thank you for your insight.
Luckily I got an extra set of my documents, but that CBC will only be valid until October I think.... :/

However, I certainly hope that I won't have to use them and that they truly just have been busy. Hopefully I will hear something within the next couple of days, otherwise I will call Korea again and see if I can get some answers.

I will try to keep my head up and hopefully I will be in Korea soon! I still welcome your comments and suggestions!
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ghostrider



Joined: 27 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your extra set of documents may be useless since you can't apply for another visa number until after the final entry date on your current visa. Good luck.
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War Eagle



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get screwed, ask the school for a letter of release and find another employer.
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peachKitten713



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ghost rider, I was more thinking along the lines of using them to find employment in a different country, like Japan or China. Since I'm American, I do think I'd have to wait one year. But on that subject, I was wondering (as War Eagle seems to hint at), what if they release me and I find another job in Korea? Then would it take less time than a year?

Well hopefully, it's as War Eagle said earlier and they've just been busy with the holiday week and stuff. I really hope I won't have to use the documents or try to find another job. Thanks again for all of your comments and please keep them coming!
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peachKitten713 wrote:
@ghost rider, I was more thinking along the lines of using them to find employment in a different country, like Japan or China. Since I'm American, I do think I'd have to wait one year. But on that subject, I was wondering (as War Eagle seems to hint at), what if they release me and I find another job in Korea? Then would it take less time than a year?

Well hopefully, it's as War Eagle said earlier and they've just been busy with the holiday week and stuff. I really hope I won't have to use the documents or try to find another job. Thanks again for all of your comments and please keep them coming!


Will they release you = unknown.
They have no legal obligation to do so and there is no way to force it.

-China is always an option as is Taiwan.
-Japan is a really tight market to try to get into from abroad.
-Vietnam is another option to look at. Pay and (work) conditions are similar to what you would find in a hagwon in Korea but the savings potential is high due to the lower cost of living.
-Thailand is also an option but until you get established the pay is poor (in terms of savings or paying off student loans).

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sparkles98356



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your situation. I had something kind of similar happen to me, except I was silly enough to book the flight believing that I would get it reimbursed. The day before I was meant to fly the school told my recruiter that they couldn't afford to hire another foreign teacher.

They did provide me with a letter of release to transfer my visa which meant that I hopped on the plane over, stayed with a friend and looked for another job. I was lucky enough to have one within 10 days. It's a job which I like, is secure and is in Seoul (I was meant to be in Paju).

Perhaps ask them outright if they are still planning on hiring you? If not, badger them for a letter of release so you can look for another job if you're really set on coming to Korea? If not, look elsewhere and enjoy Smile

Good luck!
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IPayInCash



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkles98356 wrote:
I had something kind of similar happen to me, except I was silly enough to book the flight believing that I would get it reimbursed. The day before I was meant to fly the school told my recruiter that they couldn't afford to hire another foreign teacher. !


I know you've heard it probably multiple times but I'm only posting this so OTHERS who are not yet in Korea will read it: DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR OWN TICKET UNDER THE PROMISE OF BEING REIMBURSED UPON ARRIVAL.

For every 1 person that claims they got reimbursed there's 500 that never got their money back in a timely manner or didn't get it at all. You paying for your own ticket also screws over everyone else because then the market changes and other schools also stop provide prepaid airfare.

I will say it again since I just KNOW someone will read my post and think "but the current head teacher (whose boss was breathing down their neck during this) I talked to over the phone guarantees I'll get my money back! It won't happen to me!"

DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR OWN TICKET UNDER THE PROMISE OF BEING REIMBURSED UPON ARRIVAL.
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Ranman



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPayInCash wrote:
sparkles98356 wrote:
I had something kind of similar happen to me, except I was silly enough to book the flight believing that I would get it reimbursed. The day before I was meant to fly the school told my recruiter that they couldn't afford to hire another foreign teacher. !


I know you've heard it probably multiple times but I'm only posting this so OTHERS who are not yet in Korea will read it: DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR OWN TICKET UNDER THE PROMISE OF BEING REIMBURSED UPON ARRIVAL.

For every 1 person that claims they got reimbursed there's 500 that never got their money back in a timely manner or didn't get it at all. You paying for your own ticket also screws over everyone else because then the market changes and other schools also stop provide prepaid airfare.

I will say it again since I just KNOW someone will read my post and think "but the current head teacher (whose boss was breathing down their neck during this) I talked to over the phone guarantees I'll get my money back! It won't happen to me!"

DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR OWN TICKET UNDER THE PROMISE OF BEING REIMBURSED UPON ARRIVAL.


For hagwons, yes. For public schools, it's standard practice that you get reimbursed after arrival.
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