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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

It's been a really long time since I've visited ESLCAFE. I am a former native teacher for GEPIK. Three years have gone by since I was last in Korea but I'm ready to move back. My experience teaching middle school was not the greatest - my school was great, my students were great - but as with many public school years, my class didn't count for anything and that itself makes my lessons essentially useless to my students/co-teachers. I became the clown that was asked to play games with my students and show them movies when they didn't have exams. On the contrary, my experience living in Korea was awesome and I made amazing friends. I only left because of a sick family member at the end of my 2nd year.

Upon my return to the states, I was hired as an experienced associate for one of the big 4 accounting firms. Nothing I do now is related to teaching or editing but I'm ready to give up on this career and go back to Korea.

I don't want to do teaching in the public sector anymore but am looking for something non-teaching related.

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to find a job or if there any available positions that you may know of. I've been scouring pretty every site out there for applicable positions but as I am not of Korean descent and am not high up on the corporate ladder it's proving quite difficult. I've applied to a lot of positions with no luck so far.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you!
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

elavndrc wrote:
Hi everyone!

It's been a really long time since I've visited ESLCAFE. I am a former native teacher for GEPIK. Three years have gone by since I was last in Korea but I'm ready to move back. My experience teaching middle school was not the greatest - my school was great, my students were great - but as with many public school years, my class didn't count for anything and that itself makes my lessons essentially useless to my students/co-teachers. I became the clown that was asked to play games with my students and show them movies when they didn't have exams. On the contrary, my experience living in Korea was awesome and I made amazing friends. I only left because of a sick family member at the end of my 2nd year.

Upon my return to the states, I was hired as an experienced associate for one of the big 4 accounting firms. Nothing I do now is related to teaching or editing but I'm ready to give up on this career and go back to Korea.

I don't want to do teaching in the public sector anymore but am looking for something non-teaching related.

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to find a job or if there any available positions that you may know of. I've been scouring pretty every site out there for applicable positions but as I am not of Korean descent and am not high up on the corporate ladder it's proving quite difficult. I've applied to a lot of positions with no luck so far.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you!


Seems to me that you are already employed in the non-teaching field -

Some people on the Japanese forums have suggested getting employed at an multinational corporation (in your country) which has a branch or two in the country you are interested in transferring to - and go from there.
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peachKitten713



Joined: 13 May 2013

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'll put my 2 cents in since there haven't been any other replies yet.

I think most of the job offers out there are going to be for English instructors. Now if you have a high level of Korean and/or can do something specific really well, like having skills in computer science or something, that could open up more opportunities for you.
I'm assuming you want to work legally and have your visa sponsored.

I have seen ads for waiters/workers in restaurants on Craigslist, but I don't think they would sponsor your visa or you would want to do that.

Off the top of my head, maybe you could find a job doing editing/helping write textbooks or something...

But anything is possible, so I would just continue to do your research and keep your head up!
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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:

Some people on the Japanese forums have suggested getting employed at an multinational corporation (in your country) which has a branch or two in the country you are interested in transferring to - and go from there.


Great idea - my company does exist in Korea as well and I've become friends with a lot of people from that company who are in the US for secondment but it seems impossible to transfer over there. I'd have to be at a much higher level but I don't want to wait any longer to go back. =[ I will definitely keep in touch with my friends and hope for a miracle though.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Options:

1- You find work with a local corporation that has offices in Korea, then apply for a posting / transfer to Korea. For this you typically will not need a very high level of Korean language proficiency and may not even require any proficiency...but that would be surprising.

2- If you have sufficiently high Korean language skills, apply with Korean companies that hire someone with qualifications you have. Such jobs could include editing-proof reading if you have the proper background.

3- Create your own job by investing in something in Korea (a small school. a study room, consulting...or whatever else). This would require decent Korean language proficiency as well.

For option 1 your work visa would be provided by the company, for option 2 as well but for option 3 you would likely require a residency visa (F) or an investors visa.
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_doug



Joined: 14 May 2012

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well, this is my case actually.
I started working in the company which is very big in Korea, and then every year I do 1 or 2 business trip for like 2 months each.
Actually I might be transfered one day if I really want and work for it, but I don't feel like that, I just had enough of my korean experience Very Happy
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally speaking, to work in professional non-teaching or ESL related job like editing you'd better have very specialist skills and extensive experience that the Koreans (or your multi national) can't source locally.

If you're interested in non-professional jobs, you can stick to English Education or maybe try acting or becoming some kind of entertainer, but I think most of those guys are Russian.

And why would you want to work for a Korean company anyway? Do you have a thing for Korean corporate work culture? Well, the Room Salons after work I guess are a real perk of the job...
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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:
Generally speaking, to work in professional non-teaching or ESL related job like editing you'd better have very specialist skills and extensive experience that the Koreans (or your multi national) can't source locally.

If you're interested in non-professional jobs, you can stick to English Education or maybe try acting or becoming some kind of entertainer, but I think most of those guys are Russian.

And why would you want to work for a Korean company anyway? Do you have a thing for Korean corporate work culture? Well, the Room Salons after work I guess are a real perk of the job...


I would prefer room salons I guess if I were a male...? But no. Rolling Eyes

My personality tends to lean towards the Asian side - so I feel like I'd be comfortable in the Korean work culture. That might change if I work in an actual office but I would rather try then just write it off immediately.

I'm looking into a lot of editing positions - even though I've never had full-time editing experience, it's been a part of a few of my jobs.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

elavndrc wrote:

I was hired as an experienced associate for one of the big 4 accounting firms. Nothing I do now is related to teaching or editing but I'm ready to give up on this career and go back to Korea.


Really it doesn't sound like a good move. It sounds like you have a good job there. Could you take a leave of absence and go travelling for a month? Maybe you just need a rest.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's your area of expertise? accounting? maybe if you say a bit about what you excel at then someone here might have something or know someone who does.

i know i'm looking for people with cad/reverse engineering/3d printing experience here in korea.
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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
what's your area of expertise? accounting? maybe if you say a bit about what you excel at then someone here might have something or know someone who does.

i know i'm looking for people with cad/reverse engineering/3d printing experience here in korea.


My area of expertise is IT, however, I am not technical. I do not have any skills in programming. My current job is related to incident and change management more than anything else. I have also done corporate technology training and asset management.

I'd appreciate any opportunities anyone has seen.

Thank you!
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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
elavndrc wrote:

I was hired as an experienced associate for one of the big 4 accounting firms. Nothing I do now is related to teaching or editing but I'm ready to give up on this career and go back to Korea.


Really it doesn't sound like a good move. It sounds like you have a good job there. Could you take a leave of absence and go travelling for a month? Maybe you just need a rest.


I do have a good job - but my current position doesn't have much room for growth and I'm not a fan of the corporate culture here. I have thought about transferring to another group in the company but there is a huge amount of traveling which I might not enjoy.

For some insane reason, I really miss Korea. I miss the culture, the food, the people, a lot of things. I feel like I should give myself another chance in Korea while I'm still young. Not sure whether the psychic was right, that I was Korean in my past life.... Wink
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

elavndrc wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
elavndrc wrote:

I was hired as an experienced associate for one of the big 4 accounting firms. Nothing I do now is related to teaching or editing but I'm ready to give up on this career and go back to Korea.


Really it doesn't sound like a good move. It sounds like you have a good job there. Could you take a leave of absence and go travelling for a month? Maybe you just need a rest.


I do have a good job - but my current position doesn't have much room for growth and I'm not a fan of the corporate culture here. I have thought about transferring to another group in the company but there is a huge amount of traveling which I might not enjoy.

For some insane reason, I really miss Korea. I miss the culture, the food, the people, a lot of things. I feel like I should give myself another chance in Korea while I'm still young. Not sure whether the psychic was right, that I was Korean in my past life.... Wink


One thing however...if you do miss Korea you should also realize that working there for a company (Korean or other) will not be the same experience as working there as a language teacher with very few responsibilities or pressures. Your free time might also be a lot less than it was when you were teaching.

Still, good luck to you.
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

You answered your own question here. A Korean company is not going to import a employee who works in general IT. If you had 15 years of financial accounting experience, a PhD, ACA/CPA/ACCA and an MBA, you could send your CV to Korea you'd walk into any accounting company.

elavndrc wrote:
maximmm wrote:

Some people on the Japanese forums have suggested getting employed at an multinational corporation (in your country) which has a branch or two in the country you are interested in transferring to - and go from there.


Great idea - my company does exist in Korea as well and I've become friends with a lot of people from that company who are in the US for secondment but it seems impossible to transfer over there. I'd have to be at a much higher level but I don't want to wait any longer to go back. =[ I will definitely keep in touch with my friends and hope for a miracle though.
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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Non-Teaching Position Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
You answered your own question here. A Korean company is not going to import a employee who works in general IT. If you had 15 years of financial accounting experience, a PhD, ACA/CPA/ACCA and an MBA, you could send your CV to Korea you'd walk into any accounting company.


I agree and through my research I know that there is no way that I will be able to get a job in the IT field. That doesn't bother me because that is unfortunately that also applies to jobs in the States as well. Without technical experience in the IT field - everything else is pretty much useless and there's no way that my knowledge and skills can be utilized in a smaller environment because I lack experience.
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