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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| I am told this is why teachers in Apgujeong and Gangnam are forced to leave after a few years of working in the area or the school |
Actually, all teachers country-wide are rotated every few years, no matter where they are, specifically for this reason. Or so say my coworkers at the middle school. I think they said it was every 3 years then move. Usually the same province or even county. |
A teacher recently told me it as changed to 5 years. But I really can't understand what is so great about such a high rate of turnover. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: |
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trigger123

Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Location: TALKING TO STRANGERS, IN A BETTER PLACE
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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don't hate the player. hate the game
the whole english private english system in korea makes me laugh sometimes. if people are daft enough to pay good money for english 'lessons' in a virtually unregulated system then people are going to clean up big-time. the demand should for the commodity of 'english' shouldn't even be there. a quality, properly funded state education system, with realistic levels of achievement for all students, would go a long way to pushing the private sector out of the field of education, which in my opinion it has no place to be in. it is not reasonable to expect all students to be skilled in a second language, nor is it really necessary for the entire workforce to have these skills.
waegookins might complain about the pushy korean mothers at their hagwon, or the wangjangnim treating teachers like a commodity, but its that same competitive culture that drives the hagwon system and all the private lessons in the black economy.
the korean teachers may or not be making that kind of money, who knows whether the figures are right or not. in my experience they probably aren't. hagwon teaching is not a respected profession, and even state teaching staff aren't paid particularly well.
but what i find amazing is that so much money leaves the country in the pockets of a largely unqualified, mercenary work force. rather than shelling out for private lessons, parents should be lobbying for improvements to their state system, which in the long run will raise standards.
good luck to you if you pull 5, 10, 15 million per month. but i hope that somewhere down the line the net tightens and korea gets it's game together, for korea's sake. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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To the OP:
You mentioned that the teacher's get money in kickbacks from the students. This used to be VERY common. However, the government has made it illegal for teachers to accept money from students or parents. I am talking school teachers here, not hawgwons.
Back in the day I would guess they might have gotten anywhere from 10-30mil a year "extra". My wife told me when she was a 3rd year high school student that the amount of money their homeroom teacher's would get from parents was enough to buy a car.
If a teacher is caught doing it these days, the government is VERY strict. If you have been here for five years, you must know about the current president and how he really hates corruption.
Also remember: the person who told you this is most likely bragging and exageratting. I knew a former high school teacher who went into the hawgwon business. He told me he made about 10mil a month, but to do that he had to work 14-16hrs a day, 7 days a week. That involved classes that went till about 2am. Specialized classes like TOEFL and TOEIC, which is really where the money is at in this country. |
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mack the knife

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Specialized classes like TOEFL and TOEIC, which is really where the money is at in this country. |
No, the really big money comes to those who teach su-neung prep. Those guys, if they're "famous", make sick money. |
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Aussiekimchi
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: SYDNEY
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I wasn't talking about hagwan korean teachers. I was talking about Korean school teachers.
My boss is not a hagwan owner now.
He was talking about kickbacks from students and mothers.
He has been out of the Education game for about 7 years now I guess.
President Roh has enforced a big crackdown on teachers accepting bribes from parents and students, but I just wonder if it is still happening.
I mean, there are a lot of speed cameras around. Does this stop the drivers from speeding?
And yes I did intially raise the question in this forum because if it is true..I am bl dy jealous! |
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Cheonmunka

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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you must know about the current president and how he really hates corruption.
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Sorry, this I had to reply to.
When candidates were gearing up at election time they had to disclose their financial situation. Roh was considered one with the people becasue he was only worth 400 million.
One year later, and in government, he lent a mate 10억 won or 1000 miilion won.
He wasn't held with corruption or anything like that because he (Roh) stated it was a personal loan and not from government coffers.
All liars. |
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Aussiekimchi
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: SYDNEY
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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If a teacher is caught doing it these days, the government is VERY strict. If you have been here for five years, you must know about the current president and how he really hates corruption.
Ummmm...WTF?
Yes everything is rosey under the current govt and there is no corruption because the current president really hates it.......well played young man..I have no comeback to that insight. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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If a teacher is caught doing it these days, the government is VERY strict. If you have been here for five years, you must know about the current president and how he really hates corruption.
Ummmm...WTF?
Yes everything is rosey under the current govt and there is no corruption because the current president really hates it.......well played young man..I have no comeback to that insight. |
Wasn't his brother involved in something a little suspicious? |
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Latina714
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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013 Location: AsiaHaven
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Astounded by Korean teacher's salaries!!! |
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Anyone care to guess the salary of some Korean teachers in this country?
Not all but some.
Even if there was 1 teacher on this salary I would have been surprised.
It absolutely floored me.
Some teachers in the International schools, public school system and universities make up to.......
wait for it.....
it is even too shocking to write....
25 000 000 A MONTH!!!!!!!!!
That is about US300 000 a year!
Not all of it comes legally...a lot of it comes from individual student payments for extra teaching...but still!
My boss, an ex High school teacher in Korea, claims to have been making 20 000 000 a month. Obviously I asked him why he left!
I have been arguing all day with the Koreans in my office calling them liars.
Has anyone heard of this?
I am happy to be proved wrong...I am just so jealous.
Surely it is not a Korean teacher that has the highest teaching salary in the world...SURELY NOT!!!!! |
Thanks for posting this. This was the funniest post I've read in a longgggggggggggggg time!!! I know/have known plenty of Korean teachers who are actually envious of my high salary. Which in my book, is not really high. (But its higher than theirs) That what made this post a good chuckle for me. Was this a real post? Whatever... it made my day!
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I have been arguing all day with the Koreans in my office calling them liars.
Has anyone heard of this? |
^^.This part brought tears to my eyes.(OMG, did this really happen?)
I have several friends who are Korean teachers who moonlight at night just to help make ends meet. |
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