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kiwisinkorea
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 Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:31 am Post subject: Couples teaching and living together in Korea - possible? |
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Hey!
So my boyfriend and I are organising our documents at the moment to more to Korea early 2014. We aren't married, and so we know living together might be a problem when working in a public school.
Can anyone help us in how to go about this?
We're a little bit scared that a) we won't be placed near each other b) that we will be shunned for living together secretly and that c) we will have to leave an apartment totally empty if we can't get a housing allowance in lieu of the apartment.
Has anyone had similar experiences?  |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Couples teaching and living together in Korea - possible |
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| kiwisinkorea wrote: |
Hey!
So my boyfriend and I are organising our documents at the moment to more to Korea early 2014. We aren't married, and so we know living together might be a problem when working in a public school.
Can anyone help us in how to go about this?
We're a little bit scared that a) we won't be placed near each other b) that we will be shunned for living together secretly and that c) we will have to leave an apartment totally empty if we can't get a housing allowance in lieu of the apartment.
Has anyone had similar experiences? |
I think there have been quite a few threads on this topic already, so I'm sure if you try the site's search function, you'll find a wealth of info. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:15 am Post subject: Re: Couples teaching and living together in Korea - possible |
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| kiwisinkorea wrote: |
Hey!
So my boyfriend and I are organising our documents at the moment to more to Korea early 2014. We aren't married, and so we know living together might be a problem when working in a public school.
Can anyone help us in how to go about this?
We're a little bit scared that a) we won't be placed near each other b) that we will be shunned for living together secretly and that c) we will have to leave an apartment totally empty if we can't get a housing allowance in lieu of the apartment.
Has anyone had similar experiences? |
hundreds of similar experiences. Really search the board. This has been discussed before.
Use the following line google site:forums.eslcafe.com/korea and use the words you need
If you are both worried about being separated. Then a recommendation is one person comes over on a tourist visa and then looks for a job in same area. But that will likely be with hagwons. If you are both set on public schools then it will be a crap shoot. Since you are less important then married couples, the will give less help or consideration.
Another idea is to look for couples jobs. Those can be good and bad. Good as the place will work with the both. Bad is if relationship goes bad or school decides to be cheap and shove you guys in a one room apartment.
If you do not get the housing allowance some people sublet apart the empty place, but that can raise some big problem. I knew one couple who put it out for couchsurfers.
as to being shunned for living together. A little yes, but if you practice some discretion you will have no difficulties . In this case a waygook couple is given allowance via the waygook card tm. Different story if one significant other is Korean, but that is another topic. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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OP's biggest fear should not be apartments.
It should be her boyfriend getting yellow fever.
I'm serious. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Paddycakes wrote: |
OP's biggest fear should not be apartments.
It should be her boyfriend getting yellow fever.
I'm serious. |
That's a racist and offensive term that shouldn't be used. |
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Threequalseven
Joined: 08 May 2012
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:41 am Post subject: |
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I was in the same situation with my girlfriend last year. Basically, for public schools, there's no way to guarantee that you'll live together. Period. Some couples try anyway and get lucky, but others try and get placed 100km away. I knew one couple that made it work, but she had to come to Korea by herself for a bit, then he applied for the next term. But even then it's just as risky. It's borderline discrimination that agencies refuse to put couples in the same area unless they have a ring of holiness on their fingers, but those are the ropes. If you take the gamble, I heard Daegu has placed non-married couples together in years past. It's pretty compact too, so you wouldn't end up getting placed that far apart. But then you live in Daegu. Otherwise, if you want a sure thing, better start calling up them hagwons.
Now, as for the non-color-specific fever bit, I can't say the girls here don't turn heads.  |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
OP's biggest fear should not be apartments.
It should be her boyfriend getting yellow fever.
I'm serious. |
That's a racist and offensive term that shouldn't be used. |
On who's behalf are you outraged?
My soon-to-be wife is Korean and some days her skin looks quite yellow, especially under the light in our bathroom. We joke about it. She uses the term casually and finds it funny.
Is the term racist because it generalizes a huge portion of the global population as being physically attractive?
If someone made a comment about whitey would you be equally outraged? |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
OP's biggest fear should not be apartments.
It should be her boyfriend getting yellow fever.
I'm serious. |
That's a racist and offensive term that shouldn't be used. |
On who's behalf are you outraged?
My soon-to-be wife is Korean and some days her skin looks quite yellow, especially under the light in our bathroom. We joke about it. She uses the term casually and finds it funny.
Is the term racist because it generalizes a huge portion of the global population as being physically attractive?
If someone made a comment about whitey would you be equally outraged? |
The term is racist and offensive because it implies that the non-Asian male partner is only attracted to his partner because he believes in the racial stereotypes about Asian women.
PS. The soon-to-be Korean wife line/appeal to authority doesn't impress. Pull that one out of your hat when you've been married for over a decade and I might not laugh.
PPS. Whitey? Another racist term...and no, I'm not white. |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
OP's biggest fear should not be apartments.
It should be her boyfriend getting yellow fever.
I'm serious. |
That's a racist and offensive term that shouldn't be used. |
On who's behalf are you outraged?
My soon-to-be wife is Korean and some days her skin looks quite yellow, especially under the light in our bathroom. We joke about it. She uses the term casually and finds it funny.
Is the term racist because it generalizes a huge portion of the global population as being physically attractive?
If someone made a comment about whitey would you be equally outraged? |
The term is racist and offensive because it implies that the non-Asian male partner is only attracted to his partner because he believes in the racial stereotypes about Asian women.
PS. The soon-to-be Korean wife line/appeal to authority doesn't impress. Pull that one out of your hat when you've been married for over a decade and I might not laugh.
PPS. Whitey? Another racist term...and no, I'm not white. |
I bet you are a liberal though. Reagan |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
The term is racist and offensive because it implies that the non-Asian male partner is only attracted to his partner because he believes in the racial stereotypes about Asian women.
PS. The soon-to-be Korean wife line/appeal to authority doesn't impress. Pull that one out of your hat when you've been married for over a decade and I might not laugh.
PPS. Whitey? Another racist term...and no, I'm not white. |
I disagree, to a point. I don't think it automatically implies that, though for some it might.
I only mentioned my wife because she IS asian and is not bothered at all by it. It wasn't so much an appeal to authority as it was just a personal anecdote.
I mentioned "whitey" because that's a word that seems to get used a lot without any outrage over its inherent racism.
All in all, I concede that you are right, 12ax7. Yellow Fever certainly isn't PC and is indeed a little racist. Mostly, I was in a bit of a mood yesterday and one thing that's been bugging me lately is all the faux outrage online these days. It seems like there is always a group whining about this or that and people getting so worked up about things not being politically correct.
Don't get me started on Oprah and her recent claims of racism.
...but I digress. Back to the thread! |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| lithium wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
OP's biggest fear should not be apartments.
It should be her boyfriend getting yellow fever.
I'm serious. |
That's a racist and offensive term that shouldn't be used. |
On who's behalf are you outraged?
My soon-to-be wife is Korean and some days her skin looks quite yellow, especially under the light in our bathroom. We joke about it. She uses the term casually and finds it funny.
Is the term racist because it generalizes a huge portion of the global population as being physically attractive?
If someone made a comment about whitey would you be equally outraged? |
The term is racist and offensive because it implies that the non-Asian male partner is only attracted to his partner because he believes in the racial stereotypes about Asian women.
PS. The soon-to-be Korean wife line/appeal to authority doesn't impress. Pull that one out of your hat when you've been married for over a decade and I might not laugh.
PPS. Whitey? Another racist term...and no, I'm not white. |
I bet you are a liberal though. Reagan |
Nope, I'm a centrist. Dumbass. |
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Porksta
Joined: 05 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:41 am Post subject: |
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No dumbass, yellow fever has to do with being attracted to Asian women. I know because I have it and I have no idea what these stereotypes are that you are referring to. Just like jungle fever has to do with an attraction to blacks. Nothing about black stereotypes.
Source: common sense with a little Urban Dictionary thrown in. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:27 am Post subject: |
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No dumbass, yellow fever has to do with being attracted to Asian women. I know because I have it and I have no idea what these stereotypes are that you are referring to. Just like jungle fever has to do with an attraction to blacks. Nothing about black stereotypes.
Source: common sense with a little Urban Dictionary thrown in. |
Newsflash: the Urban Dictionary is not an authoritative source. |
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Porksta
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Because the term yellow fever when not referring to a disease is an authoritative condition. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Porksta wrote: |
| Because the term yellow fever when not referring to a disease is an authoritative condition. |
Is that so? Well, then here's another Urban Dictionary definition for you:
troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument. |
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