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ed4444
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| YTMND wrote: |
Stop threatening teachers from exposing bad schools. |
I would encourage teachers to expose bad schools whenever possible. Just make sure you are completely unidentifiable even if the information is true to protect yourself. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have named and shamed bad schools I worked at. No one has done anything to challenge me on it cause I presented the facts.
That site you are referencing is appealing to people's emotions, it's not actually referencing Korean law. Saying Korean law and law in our home country are different doesn't prove you can't report true statements about someone. |
Maybe this is a better example. Take a read of it and tell me what you think.
http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2007/05/help_liable_for.html |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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If he hasn't been stopped from gaining employment elsewhere, then he hasn't lost much. I would consider this a victory and he would be better off informing us of who he fought to disprove allegations. There is no need to strangle the opponent here. Just let them know we are watching.
Can he get a new job? |
Sadly, if I mention their name, I am opening myself up to being sued for defamation myself. |
If that is true then you would be saying false things about them. Saying true things is not defamation. You don't have to make any conclusions, you don't have to say they are a "bad" person.
You can simply report what they said and I am sure the judgment is in the public domain, you can post it online. People can come to their own conclusions based on the evidence you present. |
You are wrong.
Even if things are true, it doesn't mean you can say them.
Only if things are in the public domain (like in a criminal conviction) would it be allowed. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| ed4444 wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
If he hasn't been stopped from gaining employment elsewhere, then he hasn't lost much. I would consider this a victory and he would be better off informing us of who he fought to disprove allegations. There is no need to strangle the opponent here. Just let them know we are watching.
Can he get a new job? |
Sadly, if I mention their name, I am opening myself up to being sued for defamation myself. |
If that is true then you would be saying false things about them. Saying true things is not defamation. You don't have to make any conclusions, you don't have to say they are a "bad" person.
You can simply report what they said and I am sure the judgment is in the public domain, you can post it online. People can come to their own conclusions based on the evidence you present. |
You are wrong.
Even if things are true, it doesn't mean you can say them.
Only if things are in the public domain (like in a criminal conviction) would it be allowed. |
If the OP was smart, he would just get someone in another country to name the Hagwon on his behalf. Nothing the Hagwon could do about that.
Actually, incompetent Korean Hagwons are defamed all the time from people outside Korea. I wish more foreigners would take advantage of the fact that most of us aren't tied to Korea. We could easily defame bad Hagwons, and just leave the country before we get convicted. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Wildbore wrote: |
| Juregen wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| ed4444 wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
If he hasn't been stopped from gaining employment elsewhere, then he hasn't lost much. I would consider this a victory and he would be better off informing us of who he fought to disprove allegations. There is no need to strangle the opponent here. Just let them know we are watching.
Can he get a new job? |
Sadly, if I mention their name, I am opening myself up to being sued for defamation myself. |
If that is true then you would be saying false things about them. Saying true things is not defamation. You don't have to make any conclusions, you don't have to say they are a "bad" person.
You can simply report what they said and I am sure the judgment is in the public domain, you can post it online. People can come to their own conclusions based on the evidence you present. |
You are wrong.
Even if things are true, it doesn't mean you can say them.
Only if things are in the public domain (like in a criminal conviction) would it be allowed. |
If the OP was smart, he would just get someone in another country to name the Hagwon on his behalf. Nothing the Hagwon could do about that.
Actually, incompetent Korean Hagwons are defamed all the time from people outside Korea. I wish more foreigners would take advantage of the fact that most of us aren't tied to Korea. We could easily defame bad Hagwons, and just leave the country before we get convicted. |
How to verify the message on it's credibility. |
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| You only have to prove that they "damaged" you in some way before you can report anything. If you lost a job because of what they did, then you can sue. If not, then they owe you nothing. That is how defamation works here |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| What does he hope to gain? Waegukin notoriety? |
It's "waygookin', and you can't change things if you do nothing. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
| What does he hope to gain? Waegukin notoriety? |
It's "waygookin', and you can't change things if you do nothing. |
LOL 
http://waegukin.com/
Now try visiting http://www.waygookin.com
It's "ae", there is no "y" unless you add a vowel.
The "oo" could get confused with "eu". That's why we use "u" and "eo" for the "u" sound in words like "sun". We might say "Seoul" like "sole", but it is more like "sull" when spoken in Korean.
Here is one of many sites that can show you this, http://mylanguages.org/korean_alphabet.php
And another, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070521122819AAkKyci
Go ahead, try to change the system. Tell Koreans how to employ foreigners. Tell them how to spell their language differently in English. Good luck. |
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johnny_russian
Joined: 24 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
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If that is true then you would be saying false things about them. Saying true things is not defamation. |
The laws in Korea are not the same as in your home country. Its very important to remember that before making a big mistake.
http://www.korea4expats.com/article-defamationr-laws-korea.html |
Stop threatening teachers from exposing bad schools. The examples they gave showed false information being passed on. The title says one thing, but the facts from that site show nothing about true statements being punishable.
I have named and shamed bad schools I worked at. No one has done anything to challenge me on it cause I presented the facts.
That site you are referencing is appealing to people's emotions, it's not actually referencing Korean law. Saying Korean law and law in our home country are different doesn't prove you can't report true statements about someone. |
did you even bother to read the site properly? "Any person who has defamed any other person by alleging openly facts through information and communications networks [anyone stating false comments by internet and email] with the purpose of slandering him shall be subject to imprisonment with or without prison labor for not more than 3 years or by a fine not exceeding 20 million won."
so you can get charged with defamation by stating facts, i.e., things that are true. if you state things that are false, the punishment is more severe - as the site mentions. |
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