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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:51 am Post subject: |
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OP,
Depending on the Korean city or area that you guys will choose, you might be able to get assistance from local groups geared towards helping foreign families settle in Korea.
Busan had such a group, funded by the city, and while it was small, it offered a range of servives for families (including advice / info on daycare services).
Such groups might be able to point you guys in the right direction and answer some of your more precise questions!
I would also say that if you guys target Hakwons as potential employers that make sure to ask about the school policy on employee's kids attending. Some will offer this for free, others may not. Same deal if you target international schools. I know one IS in Busan offered free tuition to the dependants of their employees and had (not sure if they still do) and integrated pre-school / daycare so that might be an option too.
Each of these options could solve a lot of your issues.
I have asked my wife to contact some of her friends in Korea that have kids in daycare and will do the same on my side with those westerners who have kids I know who are still in Korea. If we come up with anything I will pm you guys for sure.
Good luck! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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byrddogs,
I do not remember if you two have kids or not. If so, perhaps you could help the OP by sharing some information and facts that could be of use like cost of daycares, quality of daycares where you lived while in Korea, servives offered, schedule (hours of operation), availability. (either from your experiences or perhaps that of friends you had who had kids).
This could end up being of help for the OP. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| All I know is that sticking any child into Korean PS is just wrong. I taught at PS for five years ( yesterday was my last). |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| newb wrote: |
| All I know is that sticking any child into Korean PS is just wrong. I taught at PS for five years ( yesterday was my last). |
Mind going into more detail about the wrong things you witnessed? |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| newb wrote: |
| All I know is that sticking any child into Korean PS is just wrong. I taught at PS for five years ( yesterday was my last). |
Mind going into more detail about the wrong things you witnessed? |
Bullying by other kid; constant slapping, pushing, punching, pinching, scratching, twisting, choking, etc. among students; bullying by teachers; lazy teachers; no teachers in the classroom due to frequent voluntary/forced business trips. There's more but ill stop here. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| newb wrote: |
| Bullying by other kid; constant slapping, pushing, punching, pinching, scratching, twisting, choking, etc. among students; bullying by teachers; lazy teachers; no teachers in the classroom due to frequent voluntary/forced business trips. There's more but ill stop here. |
Sounds like most schools in the US, UK, Canada, NZ or Aus...
and the problem with Korean schools specifically is???
OP...
Bringing kids is not difficult. Lots of us have done it and lots have married abroad and had kids as well.
Like anything with kids, it takes some pre-planning and it wouldn't hurt if you had some savings as a plan-b.
It is also more expensive to be abroad with your kids/dependents. Your employer won't be paying for their visas, ARCs, flights, etc.
Schooling here isn't singularly poor or worse than home. At least Korea, unlike the US or UK, is in the top 10 for PISA scores. (No child left behind... the author of that certainly understood irony).
Daycare is available and 2nd/3rd language acquisition at a young age is significantly UN-traumatic.
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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byrddogs,
I do not remember if you two have kids or not. If so, perhaps you could help the OP by sharing some information and facts that could be of use like cost of daycares, quality of daycares where you lived while in Korea, servives offered, schedule (hours of operation), availability. (either from your experiences or perhaps that of friends you had who had kids).
This could end up being of help for the OP. |
You know what, I could do that, but I don't meet the criteria for the op and you are all over those things already. There would be no use in me reiterating. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| newb wrote: |
| Bullying by other kid; constant slapping, pushing, punching, pinching, scratching, twisting, choking, etc. among students; bullying by teachers; lazy teachers; no teachers in the classroom due to frequent voluntary/forced business trips. There's more but ill stop here. |
Sounds like most schools in the US, UK, Canada, NZ or Aus...
and the problem with Korean schools specifically is???
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I knew someone will come back with that...
Multiply everything I said by 10. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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I knew someone will come back with that...
Multiply everything I said by 10. |
In a word.... Horseshit.
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| newb wrote: |
I knew someone will come back with that...
Multiply everything I said by 10. |
In a word.... Horseshit.
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In a word... If I had kids, I would not subject them to 'torture' in Korean PS. I'd put them in int'l school. I feel sorry for all students in Korean PS. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
byrddogs,
I do not remember if you two have kids or not. If so, perhaps you could help the OP by sharing some information and facts that could be of use like cost of daycares, quality of daycares where you lived while in Korea, servives offered, schedule (hours of operation), availability. (either from your experiences or perhaps that of friends you had who had kids).
This could end up being of help for the OP. |
You know what, I could do that, but I don't meet the criteria for the op and you are all over those things already. There would be no use in me reiterating. |
Not necessarily. I meant it, you lived in Korea for a while and you might have some valuable insight for the OP on certain issues that concern them. I agree repeating the same thing would not be of much use but I was thinking you may have known parents of western kids in Korea and perhaps could have contacted them or put them in contact with the OP. |
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drunkenfud

Joined: 08 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| newb wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| newb wrote: |
I knew someone will come back with that...
Multiply everything I said by 10. |
In a word.... Horseshit.
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In a word... If I had kids, I would not subject them to 'torture' in Korean PS. I'd put them in int'l school. I feel sorry for all students in Korean PS. |
Bullshit. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| drunkenfud wrote: |
| newb wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| newb wrote: |
I knew someone will come back with that...
Multiply everything I said by 10. |
In a word.... Horseshit.
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In a word... If I had kids, I would not subject them to 'torture' in Korean PS. I'd put them in int'l school. I feel sorry for all students in Korean PS. |
Bullshit. |
here is a newsflash for newb. Not all public schools or any schools in Korea are the same just like in all countries. That being said, Korea is a xenophobic country for sure. I hope it changes in the future. |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a kid and live in Korea. Neither me or my husband is Korean. i think 0-6 it is fine but it gets tricky when they enter public school. I wouldnt be totally against Korean elementary school but never middle and high school. i want her to have the opportunity to join competitive sports teams. Hopefully my husband relocates soon so schooling won't be a problem when the time comes. Now she goes to Korean daycare and its great, plus shes able to make some extra cash modelling. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| It's hard to believe with all the education-related degrees floating around in Korea, that there aren't more charter type schools for the expats with kids, home schooling seems like a much more viable and inexpensive option than sending them to international schools to avoid the Korean public school system. |
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