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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven
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 Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: UNDISCIPLINED STUDENTS |
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The bigger question, and doesn't only pertain to this employer, is why the owner didn't kick the student out before? Yes, he'd lose the student's tuition, but he probably lost multiple students' tuition in keeping this bad kid at the school. |
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^^. Parents owned a big company next to the school Wealthy and very influential in the small town. Plus, two other siblings were taking multiple classes at the school. The mother's gossip alone, would have ruined him.
I found all this info out much, much later.)In Korean, gossip = truth. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:27 am Post subject: |
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So you didn't hit the student, but whatever you did wasn't verbal.
Pressure points? Ear pulling?
Hammer lock?
If it happened so many years ago, why are you so worried about talking about it? |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
So you didn't hit the student, but whatever you did wasn't verbal.
Pressure points? Ear pulling?
Hammer lock?
If it happened so many years ago, why are you so worried about talking about it? |
Yeah, that is curious. I don't get the if you guess it, I'll tell you.
Also, what ever happened with this? Did you post it somewhere else?
| beentheredonethat777 wrote: |
In the immediate future, I will share some very useful tips and techniques for new/ or inexperienced teachers in Korea or around the world that will work for ALL ages. (I've taught students ages 3-85, respectfully,) in public schools/private/university students, Business English/Military officers/camps/intensives/ Senior citizens/ etc. (in Korea)and a special needs class with 15 ADD students on daily meds in America, with great success.
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thisisausername
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
So you didn't hit the student, but whatever you did wasn't verbal.
Pressure points? Ear pulling?
Hammer lock?
If it happened so many years ago, why are you so worried about talking about it? |
"Hey everyone look at me. Guess what I did. Nope that's not it. Guess again. Haha nope. etc" |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| beentheredonethat777 wrote: |
In the immediate future, I will share some very useful tips and techniques for new/ or inexperienced teachers in Korea or around the world that will work for ALL ages. (I've taught students ages 3-85, respectfully,) in public schools/private/university students, Business English/Military officers/camps/intensives/ Senior citizens/ etc. (in Korea)and a special needs class with 15 ADD students on daily meds in America, with great success.. |
The immediate future has come and gone and you have yet to share your wisdom that you promised. It is the perfect time to help out these new inexperienced teachers. So, what have you got? |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:07 am Post subject: |
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The immediate future has come and gone and you have yet to share your wisdom that you promised. It is the perfect time to help out these new inexperienced teachers. So, what have you got? |
Why don't you share all that amazing knowledge you acquired while getting a 'proper qualification' first? Just while we're waiting for the other guy. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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After living in Korea for over three years, I am moere shocked that kids act ruder outside of school than inside of school in general. Children in this country grow up to be very offensive, aggressive, and even downright scary. Almost every student I had cannot learn any basic anger management.
I wondered why. I found out that the social atmosphere here discourages people from being laid-back. Young and old, people are here ridiculously becoming intolerant, stiff, and hostile. Color me surprise. There is no reason to save Korea when a whole generation is becoming too incompetent. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| I find a big change in young Korean men after they complete their military service. If they didn't learn discipline at home or in school, they sure learn it there. |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| I find a big change in young Korean men after they complete their military service. If they didn't learn discipline at home or in school, they sure learn it there. |
I just got a new kid so bad that I asked my boss if they had Military High-Schools here. I was shocked to here that the concept doesn't exist here. I think it would be a great idea. They could get their two years done earlier, while also getting High-School over with. No time wasted. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| I find a big change in young Korean men after they complete their military service. If they didn't learn discipline at home or in school, they sure learn it there. |
Yes, the realization that there would often be consequences to their childish behavior is part of it. It's also about coming to the realization that mom and dad would no longer be able to bail them out every time they screw up (or at least for the duration of their service).
And no, I'm not just speaking as a teacher who's seen the before and after affect here in Korea, but also as someone who volunteered for the armed forces shortly before completing his undergraduate degree and served with kids who were barely out of high school. Those of us who thought basic training was a breeze were all older and more experienced. We were already responsible adults. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| I find a big change in young Korean men after they complete their military service. If they didn't learn discipline at home or in school, they sure learn it there. |
Then they eventually become ajosshi, the very people who Dave's ESL avoid. So living in Korea, I don't like kids who are book smart because those Korean book smart kids usually mean that they have a very unwelcoming personality. Parents aren't willing to discipline their kids. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| I find a big change in young Korean men after they complete their military service. If they didn't learn discipline at home or in school, they sure learn it there. |
Then they eventually become ajosshi, the very people who Dave's ESL avoid. So living in Korea, I don't like kids who are book smart because those Korean book smart kids usually mean that they have a very unwelcoming personality. Parents aren't willing to discipline their kids. |
Dude, feeling threatened by grown men is childish. The guys you deride by using a term so many of the younger and/or most immature people here use as a racial epithet, "ajoshi", are about my age. Some of them have been my friends for nearly two decades. They have been there with me through thick and thin. I hope that one day you become as open-minded and tolerant as they have been with me.
Koreans aren't willing to discipline their kids? LOL. If anything, they are sometimes too strict. |
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