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Ranman
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: School wants afterschool/trip fee? |
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The coordinator who oversees NETs at our school just came in and told me that we were required to pay 15,000 Won a month for some after school fees, supposedly used for teachers' dinners, meetings, etc.
Have any of your heard of such a thing? Supposedly this has been taken out of my pay since the beginning of the year automatically, but I haven't had it taken out since June according to her.
Does this sound like a load of crap or is it just me? |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it's legit - 15,000 is cheap, normally 20,000 or over.
Just pay it - Your life will be much easier if you do pay it and you'll be seen as 'one of the group'
Or kick up a fuss, refuse to pay and then be ostracised by your school...
I usually just pay 6 months at a time in one lump sum.
120,000 sept-feb and then 120,000 march-aug. |
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Ranman
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucas wrote: |
Yes it's legit - 15,000 is cheap, normally 20,000 or over.
Just pay it - Your life will be much easier if you do pay it and you'll be seen as 'one of the group'
Or kick up a fuss, refuse to pay and then be ostracised by your school...
I usually just pay 6 months at a time in one lump sum.
120,000 sept-feb and then 120,000 march-aug. |
Nah, not wanting to kick up a fuss and I don't have a problem with it if it's legit. This is just the first time I've heard about it (or at least from what I can remember).
Thank for the info! |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucas wrote: |
Yes it's legit - 15,000 is cheap, normally 20,000 or over.
Just pay it - Your life will be much easier if you do pay it and you'll be seen as 'one of the group'
Or kick up a fuss, refuse to pay and then be ostracised by your school...
I usually just pay 6 months at a time in one lump sum.
120,000 sept-feb and then 120,000 march-aug. |
Nah, not wanting to kick up a fuss and I don't have a problem with it if it's legit. This is just the first time I've heard about it (or at least from what I can remember).
Thank for the info! |
No problem paying but I would stick it to them each time they got stingy at these outings. For the record though, I have never had to pay these fees and when taken out for dinners they have always been good (sometimes weird, but nothing cheap).
I would just pay it monthly to start and see how it goes. If it seems fine then pay 3 or so months in advance so you don't get a surprise deduction later on. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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No problem paying but I would stick it to them each time they got stingy at these outings. For the record though, I have never had to pay these fees and when taken out for dinners they have always been good (sometimes weird, but nothing cheap).
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What do you mean by that? This money is also used for other things too, such as paying for bereavement and a few other things.
Questioning how the money is being used could well come round full circle and smack you in the face!
There is one teacher in charge of the 'teachers’ fund' and it's quite a crappy job.
I've had one teacher who provided an itemized bill for all teachers every 6 months - and then gave us all a small rebate and another who never did this and then spent the reminder of the money on a staff 'blow out' party at the end of the year. The only time I've ever been groped by a teacher - 
I've also had another teacher who felt bad that I’d missed some of the staff outings, so on my birthday gave me cash instead.
It's quite a thankless job and if you question them (well you'd prob have to ask your CT to question them) which would make it doubly bad for both of them..... You prob will not be a popular person..... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: School wants afterschool/trip fee? |
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| Ranman wrote: |
The coordinator who oversees NETs at our school just came in and told me that we were required to pay 15,000 Won a month for some after school fees, supposedly used for teachers' dinners, meetings, etc.
Have any of your heard of such a thing? Supposedly this has been taken out of my pay since the beginning of the year automatically, but I haven't had it taken out since June according to her.
Does this sound like a load of crap or is it just me? |
Typical at most PS jobs.
Never had it happen at a hagwon.
Our public school used to have regular dinners out and once per year a weekend away at a beach or mountain resort somewhere.
They also use the fund to kick in for birth/death/family emergencies/etc for the teachers at the school (got dinner out and a cash gift when our daughter was born).
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, used for school dinners and stuff. Sometimes it's used for that 'free' coffee in your office, or they ask for an extra 10,000-ish a month. And at these getaways, pretty often they have raffle 'prizes'. These 'prizes' usually consist of 8-packs of ramien, shampoo, or whatever around 10,000-ish you can think of.
Just pay it and go on as many teacher's trips or dinners as you can. Everything will be covered on these trips. And if you're a good teacher you might end up with a beautiful towel with the school's name on it. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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At our school it's 40,000 a month. 20,000 goes to a big annual trip for all the school employees, and the other 20,000 pays for an outing a month and a package of "membership benefits" which include monetary gifts for major life events. I received money from the fund when I got married and when my children were born.
Honestly, it's a pretty nice system, and the fact that you're being offered participation is an effort to include you. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| What do you mean by that? This money is also used for other things too, such as paying for bereavement and a few other things. |
First, I was commenting on the one thing I would be willing to pay it for. It's like pork barrel. As long I get the nice outings with dinner here and there, I don't care where the extra money goes to.
Second, I am not planning on anyone dying. I am not paying someone for an "(allowed) suicide clause". If another person's relative dies, then I will console that person when the time comes. No need to collect investment premiums for "almost dead people".
One employer paid 1,000 RMB less for our salary but he added 1,000 to our salary. He said this was our food allowance. I have never experienced this other than with that job. 1,000 RMB is 182,394 won. He also paid for meals for lunch or dinner if we taught 3 or more classes near those times. Teach 6 classes, get 2 free meals. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| What do you mean by that? This money is also used for other things too, such as paying for bereavement and a few other things. |
First, I was commenting on the one thing I would be willing to pay it for. It's like pork barrel. As long I get the nice outings with dinner here and there, I don't care where the extra money goes to.
Second, I am not planning on anyone dying. I am not paying someone for an "(allowed) suicide clause". If another person's relative dies, then I will console that person when the time comes. No need to collect investment premiums for "almost dead people".
One employer paid 1,000 RMB less for our salary but he added 1,000 to our salary. He said this was our food allowance. I have never experienced this other than with that job. 1,000 RMB is 182,394 won. He also paid for meals for lunch or dinner if we taught 3 or more classes near those times. Teach 6 classes, get 2 free meals. |
Apples and kumquats.
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| What do you mean by that? This money is also used for other things too, such as paying for bereavement and a few other things. |
First, I was commenting on the one thing I would be willing to pay it for. It's like pork barrel. As long I get the nice outings with dinner here and there, I don't care where the extra money goes to.
Second, I am not planning on anyone dying. I am not paying someone for an "(allowed) suicide clause". If another person's relative dies, then I will console that person when the time comes. No need to collect investment premiums for "almost dead people".
One employer paid 1,000 RMB less for our salary but he added 1,000 to our salary. He said this was our food allowance. I have never experienced this other than with that job. 1,000 RMB is 182,394 won. He also paid for meals for lunch or dinner if we taught 3 or more classes near those times. Teach 6 classes, get 2 free meals. |
Apples and kumquats.
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If you are saying my post is like "apples and oranges" where there is supposedly a significant difference (although they are both fruits) then I disagree. A person can pay a monthly fee labeled "blah blah" to pay for dinners and deaths of co-workers' relatives. I don't care about it. The point is, will you get something out of it?
If you are saying this is all about donation and that we shouldn't worry about what the money is for and we shouldn't expect benefits after deductions have been made, then I would fight it.
And in that case it is apples and apple sauce. |
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Ranman
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| I only came here asking was it a normal thing for a school to ask. Considering the amount of dinners my school holds and stuff I get at the school, it's a minor contribution and I get more than enough in return. I just wanted to know if others experienced it or was I getting taken advantage of. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| Ranman wrote: |
| I only came here asking was it a normal thing for a school to ask. Considering the amount of dinners my school holds and stuff I get at the school, it's a minor contribution and I get more than enough in return. I just wanted to know if others experienced it or was I getting taken advantage of. |
"it's a minor contribution and I get more than enough in return."
What does that mean?
If you get more than enough, then I wouldn't say that is a minor contribution. Sorry, I don't understand. |
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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:59 am Post subject: Re: School wants afterschool/trip fee? |
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15,000 Won a month for some after school fees, supposedly used for teachers' dinners, meetings, etc.
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WOW! That is cheap. Usually its 20-40,000 won per month.[/quote] |
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