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Captain Corea
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Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject: Korean uber-nationalism criticized in the Chosun |
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국뽕
Is apparently a new phrase meaning 국가 (nation) and 히로뽕 (meth). So, I'm guessing it's a sort of addiction to the nation... in a way.
The Marmot's Hole has a write up on it.
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| The Chosun Ilbo’s culture desk takes a look at a new word going ’round the Interweb—gukppong, a portmanteau of gukga (nation) and hiroppong (meth). The gukppong refers to being over-obsessed with matters of national pride, which usually manifests itself in cringe-worthy scenes of Korean reporters asking visiting foreign celebrities (such as Matt Damon, Quincy Jones, Robert Downey Junior and Will Smith, just to name some recent examples) stupid “Do You Know…” questions like “Do you know Gangnan Style,” “Do you know kimchi” and “Do you know Dokdo”; hand-feeding celebrities kimchi (ask Hugh Jackman) and making them wear hanbok (not that there’s anything wrong with wearing hanbok); or making celebrities do the horse dance (now a “rite of passage” for visiting celebrities, writes the Chosun). |
I think it's great that they're taking a look at it. Too many awkward, avoidable moments, IMO.
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IPayInCash
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think Koreans just have little man syndrome. Similar to so many Canadians that needlessly bash America because America is much more famous than Canada and Canada gets less attention globally. I've met a LOT of Canadians in Korea that simply hate America no matter how hard I try to explain all of that stuff isn't important, and who cares which country gets more attention?
With Koreans, it's being that small country tucked in between Japan and China that feels the need to validate itself to still feel relevant. I understand it because I've been to Canada and immediately insulted because I was an American. Koreans do the same by not wasting any time to tell you how oily Chinese food is, how dirty their people are, or how awful Japan is for their war history and how "they never apologized" (show them a list of war apologies by Japan only to hear "they never meant it!" next). Same BS. Different continent. |
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nate1983
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
I think Koreans just have little man syndrome. Similar to so many Canadians that needlessly bash America because America is much more famous than Canada and Canada gets less attention globally. I've met a LOT of Canadians in Korea that simply hate America no matter how hard I try to explain all of that stuff isn't important, and who cares which country gets more attention?
With Koreans, it's being that small country tucked in between Japan and China that feels the need to validate itself to still feel relevant. I understand it because I've been to Canada and immediately insulted because I was an American. Koreans do the same by not wasting any time to tell you how oily Chinese food is, how dirty their people are, or how awful Japan is for their war history and how "they never apologized" (show them a list of war apologies by Japan only to hear "they never meant it!" next). Same BS. Different continent. |
Countdown to anti-America comments in 3...2...1 (I'm actually doing this to preclude it from actually happening. We'll see if it works). |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| There's a great video representing this, too bad I can't find it. Some Korean reporter, maybe a Korean representative, asks an American representative/senator a question, then he says, oh and one more question, do you know gangnam style? The entire room full of representatives from other nations cringes at the same |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Now they can ask, "Do you know...poo wine?" |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, only one post before the Canada bashing. Must be a new record, even for this board. Now let's hear your thoughts on foreign women. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| Now let's hear your thoughts on foreign women. |
They be fat, yo. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Korean ber-nationalism criticized in the Chosun |
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| ... and making them wear hanbok (not that there’s anything wrong with wearing hanbok);... |
This seems out of accord with the other examples. Hanboks are both attractive and (at least in the case of male hanboks) comfortable. If anything, Korea should push the hanbok harder; stop having your businessmen dress up in shiny suits and have them wear hanboks instead, and by all means encourage foreigners to wear them when they visit. The western business suit is a plague that needs to be eradicated. |
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cabeza
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Korean ber-nationalism criticized in the Chosun |
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| Fox wrote: |
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| ... and making them wear hanbok (not that there’s anything wrong with wearing hanbok);... |
This seems out of accord with the other examples. Hanboks are both attractive and (at least in the case of male hanboks) comfortable. |
Disagree. They make any woman who wears one look matronly. And they always choose the worst shade of pastels. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Korean ber-nationalism criticized in the Chosun |
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| cabeza wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
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| ... and making them wear hanbok (not that there’s anything wrong with wearing hanbok);... |
This seems out of accord with the other examples. Hanboks are both attractive and (at least in the case of male hanboks) comfortable. |
Disagree. They make any woman who wears one look matronly. And they always choose the worst shade of pastels. |
I have never once donned that ridiculous garb. There was none of that at my wedding, and my wife was in complete agreement. Just because it is a traditional outfit doesn't make it look any less absurd. I don't ever dress like someone out of an Elizabethan-era period drama simply because they used to hundreds of years ago.
Furthermore, there is something really bemusing about a non-korean foreigner in that getup. It looks out of place and a bit funny. Like seeing Jackie Chan dressed as a cowboy. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Korean ber-nationalism criticized in the Chosun |
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| cabeza wrote: |
Disagree. They make any woman who wears one look matronly. And they always choose the worst shade of pastels. |
Ever gone through a hanbok catalogue? I know the kind you're talking about (usually the ones designed for festivals and rituals, which is why they're so gaudy), but there's also a large variety of (in my estimation) far more stylish ones designed for day to day wear. At my wife's school one of the teachers wore such daily-life hanboks, and they're really charming and attractive. Most foreigners never get a chance to see them because Koreans have gone business-suit crazy. It's a shame.
I own five or so hanboks myself, and I genuinely like wearing them. My green summer hanbok is the only long-sleeved article of clothing I own I've ever been comfortable wearing in summer heat in fact. |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Waygook that owns five hanboks? Wow you just might take the cake for biggest Koreaboo.
10 bucks says the guy has a ponytail. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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No ponytail.
I suggest anyone who hasn't tried a day-wear hanbok give them a chance. If you're interested in comfortable clothing and aren't afraid of being judged by random people on the Internet (and no one who isn't a complete *beep* should be worried about such a thing), you might be surprised. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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meh
I'm a jeans and t-shirt type of guy. I'll leave the hanbok for you. |
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