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Korean uber-nationalism criticized in the Chosun
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Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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there's also a large variety of (in my estimation) far more stylish ones designed for day to day wear. At my wife's school one of the teachers wore such daily-life hanboks, and they're really charming and attractive. Most foreigners never get a chance to see them because Koreans have gone business-suit crazy. It's a shame.


Could you provide a link to a photo of the kind of hanbok you're referring to? All the hanboks I see are pretty naff looking. The guys look stupid and the girls look shapeless. It hides their legs and arses. That's a cardinal sin in my book.
I like the Chinese style dresses that are tight and show off the girl's body. That's what I'm all about - appreciating the female form.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:

Could you provide a link to a photo of the kind of hanbok you're referring to?


Here is a simple male summer hanbok. Whether you like the style or not is up to you (it's just the first one a naver search pulled up), but it's certainly not the thick, flashy silks that come to mind when a lot of people think of them.

I have to admit that I'm also a fan of the grey monk hanboks (though I don't own one myself, and my wife got a bit angry when I suggested I might buy one, because she didn't want anyone thinking I was a monk and, therefore, unmarried!), they give a really nice, austere impression.

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the girls look shapeless. It hides their legs and arses. That's a cardinal sin in my book.


Well, if that's your objective, yes, the Chinese outfits for women are where it's at, and I agree they look nice as well.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
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there's also a large variety of (in my estimation) far more stylish ones designed for day to day wear. At my wife's school one of the teachers wore such daily-life hanboks, and they're really charming and attractive. Most foreigners never get a chance to see them because Koreans have gone business-suit crazy. It's a shame.


Could you provide a link to a photo of the kind of hanbok you're referring to? All the hanboks I see are pretty naff looking. The guys look stupid and the girls look shapeless. It hides their legs and arses. That's a cardinal sin in my book.
I like the Chinese style dresses that are tight and show off the girl's body. That's what I'm all about - appreciating the female form.


Google 생활한복 for more images.
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two words: Ao dai
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Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Google 생활한복 for more images.


I had a look at Fox's link and googled the word you mentioned. I'm not impressed. They look boring and shapeless. Like wearing a big tent.

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Two words: Ao dai


I googled it and at first I was like "meh..."
but then I saw this http://nguoivietblog.com/ngoclan/?attachment_id=1832
and I was like "yeah....".
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IPayInCash



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Seoulman69 wrote:

Could you provide a link to a photo of the kind of hanbok you're referring to?


Here is a simple male summer hanbok.


If I had to wear that thing in public Id kick my own ass. Youre not living in a modern day version of The Last Waygook. Put on a tshirt and some jeans Koreaboo.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPayInCash, I can do without being Internet stalked by an caricature of a frat boy, thanks. Your opinion will not be needed (or read) henceforth.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only Korean clothing I'd be down with wearing is the casual shirt and trousers that you see. I think they're made from cotton or some other fabric, usually dull colored, and look practical and comfortable. Basically the Korean version of sweats. They also don't look utterly ridiculous.

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Put on a tshirt and some jeans


Jeans and a t-shirt being used as a symbol of conformity. Emily Post is spinning in her grave.

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I don't ever dress like someone out of an Elizabethan-era period drama


I dunno, would be kind cool if everyone walked around with swords and all.

Personally I like the 1900s-1950s look where everyone wore suits, even the poor.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPayInCash wrote:
Fox wrote:
Seoulman69 wrote:

Could you provide a link to a photo of the kind of hanbok you're referring to?


Here is a simple male summer hanbok.


If I had to wear that thing in public Id kick my own ass. Youre not living in a modern day version of The Last Waygook. Put on a tshirt and some jeans Koreaboo.


He's trolling. See the comment about him liking grey monk robes Rolling Eyes
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never worn a hanbok, but if it was socially acceptable, I'd probably rock one. They look comfy. I'd also wear sweats and a tshirt everyday if I could
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ethics teacher, who always seem to be male, commonly do the hanbok thing at schools I've taught at. It looks comfortable, but I'd never do it. I'd feel like & probably be regarded as a pretentious Korean wannabe.
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Threequalseven



Joined: 08 May 2012

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has nothing to do with hanboks, but rather the OP. My Korean coworker asked me, "Who is the most famous Korean in the world?" I told him definitely Psy, and after unsuccessfully trying to persuade me otherwise, he stood up and yelled "I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT!"

So yeah... nationalism, huh.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threequalseven wrote:
"Who is the most famous Korean in the world?" I told him definitely Psy

And a dead guy named Kim Jong-Il.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
The guys look stupid and the girls look shapeless. It hides their legs and arses. That's a cardinal sin in my book.

One of the purposes of the hanbok was to hide the shape of the body. So, that men wouldn't get 'aroused' by the female shape. It was intended design back in the day.

Now if someone would just update the thing it would be more form-fitting for the gals out there.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I'd feel like & probably be regarded as a pretentious Korean wannabe.


I can definitely understand that, and the amount of approval Koreans often express when they see a foreigner in a hanbok can be a bit awkward honestly, but I refuse to let that influence me. Not wearing something I like because Koreans give it a big thumbs up would be as bad as not wearing it because some punks on the Internet don't like it, right?

The old man style hanboks Steelrails mentioned (the first kind I bought) are especially comfortable. It's like having sanction to wear pajamas in public. I can see why fashion conscious people might not go for it, but I love it.
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