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The rate of home invasions/break-ins
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tcatsninfank



Joined: 03 Apr 2013

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. Insurance is something else I've been wondering about. I saw the Cigna Expatriate Health Insurance listed in another thread, but what about some sort of renter's insurance policy? Is this something you get through a Korean agency or is it more of a global policy/agency?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there something I don't know about Mac mini and Mac Pro? I mean, computers are disposable items around here. Insurance? Aren't you going over the top here? Confused
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said,

Attack Dog (rottweiler/German Shepherd/Doberman) and steel bars. Maybe a floor safe which you have to deposit your computer into everytime.

If you aren't willing to do that, then don't bother and enjoy life without worrying about the 3% chance you'll have a break-in.

Home security you either do it right or don't bother.
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tcatsninfank



Joined: 03 Apr 2013

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Is there something I don't know about Mac mini and Mac Pro? I mean, computers are disposable items around here. Insurance? Aren't you going over the top here? Confused

I don't understand why you're having such an issue with this. Computers aren't disposable in the sense that I use mine for years at a time. And I'm "going over the top" by asking about renter's insurance? Why is that over the top?
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tcatsninfank



Joined: 03 Apr 2013

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
As I said,

Attack Dog (rottweiler/German Shepherd/Doberman) and steel bars. Maybe a floor safe which you have to deposit your computer into everytime.

If you aren't willing to do that, then don't bother and enjoy life without worrying about the 3% chance you'll have a break-in.

Home security you either do it right or don't bother.

Thanks for repeating yourself. Jesus.

What I asked originally isn't anything unreasonable: I asked whether anyone had experienced this. I didn't ask what I should do to prevent it.

And this is something I'd ask people about regardless of where I was moving. I was looking at moving to Durham, NC a few years ago and asked a friend living there about the crime situation. I'd be doing the same with Korea if I knew anyone personally who lived there.

But instead I turned to Dave's ESL Cafe and lived to regret the negativity and sarcasm. I don't understand it.

Maybe I am being a little anal retentive about this, but isn't that better than coming to Korea and giving foreigners a bad name by being malicious or causing trouble? Look at the threads on here about foreigners charging up Korean credit cards and then leaving the country, among other things.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone or be rude. Just trying to understand what I'll be getting into.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL... where do you think you are going....

most of the countries on the planet aren't as violent, dangerous or as crime ridden as the one you are leaving.

Ladies can walk down the street after dark without worry in most of the country.
Kids can play outside without worry.
Unless you live in a ground floor hovel somewhere you likely won't have to worry about a break-in. (probably won't have to worry even if you do live in a ground floor hovel.)

Home invasions are a product of your own country that, fortunately, haven't been broadly exported yet (a major advantage of both self control and gun control).

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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
As I said,

Attack Dog (rottweiler/German Shepherd/Doberman) and steel bars. Maybe a floor safe which you have to deposit your computer into everytime.

If you aren't willing to do that, then don't bother and enjoy life without worrying about the 3% chance you'll have a break-in.

Home security you either do it right or don't bother.


yeah pretty much what ttom said.

and as for what steelrails said, let's use the three or so years i've been here. that's 365 days x3 which equals to 1095 days. i have yet to have a single break-in, robbery, hold-up, mugging, or any kind of crime happen to me, so we are already well below .001%, not anywhere close to 3%.

as others have mentioned you are worried about this way too much, especially for the items you've listed as bringing over. now if you had a ferrari the discussion would be different but still not by much.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
LOL... where do you think you are going....

most of the countries on the planet aren't as violent, dangerous or as crime ridden as the one you are leaving.

Ladies can walk down the street after dark without worry in most of the country.
Kids can play outside without worry.
Unless you live in a ground floor hovel somewhere you likely won't have to worry about a break-in. (probably won't have to worry even if you do live in a ground floor hovel.)

Home invasions are a product of your own country that, fortunately, haven't been broadly exported yet (a major advantage of both self control and gun control).

.


Yup. Americans are generally safer abroad than at home for the very reasons you've mentioned.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Home invasions are rare here. The home invasions that I have heard about are usually of the rapist variety. That is more for the girls to worry about.

As to burglary, also uncommon. through it it rising a little. Yet the days of slicky boys and second story jobs are gone. Most burglaries are of the opportunity type. Door open or street level apartment window is open. You hear of the few (very very very few) breakin people.

As people mentioned some thing wills up your chance.
1) Where you lives. Cities more then towns, Bigger cities more then smaller cities. Plus areas like Itaewon and HBC will have more break-ins.
2) Security of apartment. The lower the floor, the higher the chance. The older the apartment the more likely.

Yet in the 10 years here in Korea, I have had not burglaries happen to me. I know a few people, but it was as I said opportunity or just plain stupidity on the owners part. For example a guy was to friendly letting in some new Koreans to his place. Flashed his pay and it was gone later. Or people did not lock their door and come back to find things gone.

Practice some basic security and you should be fine.

Bikes on the other hand, well that is fair game. Everybody I know has had a bike stolen.

Overall, Korea is a pretty safe and honest country compared to other places. Really do not worry too much about this, there are other things to worry about like contracts, laws, teaching, etc.
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tcatsninfank



Joined: 03 Apr 2013

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Home invasions are rare here. The home invasions that I have heard about are usually of the rapist variety. That is more for the girls to worry about.

As to burglary, also uncommon. through it it rising a little. Yet the days of slicky boys and second story jobs are gone. Most burglaries are of the opportunity type. Door open or street level apartment window is open. You hear of the few (very very very few) breakin people.

As people mentioned some thing wills up your chance.
1) Where you lives. Cities more then towns, Bigger cities more then smaller cities. Plus areas like Itaewon and HBC will have more break-ins.
2) Security of apartment. The lower the floor, the higher the chance. The older the apartment the more likely.

Yet in the 10 years here in Korea, I have had not burglaries happen to me. I know a few people, but it was as I said opportunity or just plain stupidity on the owners part. For example a guy was to friendly letting in some new Koreans to his place. Flashed his pay and it was gone later. Or people did not lock their door and come back to find things gone.

Practice some basic security and you should be fine.

Bikes on the other hand, well that is fair game. Everybody I know has had a bike stolen.

Overall, Korea is a pretty safe and honest country compared to other places. Really do not worry too much about this, there are other things to worry about like contracts, laws, teaching, etc.

Thank you for this statement, and thanks to the other people who contributed similar information.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Home invasions are rare here. The home invasions that I have heard about are usually of the rapist variety. That is more for the girls to worry about.

As to burglary, also uncommon. through it it rising a little. Yet the days of slicky boys and second story jobs are gone. Most burglaries are of the opportunity type. Door open or street level apartment window is open. You hear of the few (very very very few) breakin people.

As people mentioned some thing wills up your chance.
1) Where you lives. Cities more then towns, Bigger cities more then smaller cities. Plus areas like Itaewon and HBC will have more break-ins.
2) Security of apartment. The lower the floor, the higher the chance. The older the apartment the more likely.

Yet in the 10 years here in Korea, I have had not burglaries happen to me. I know a few people, but it was as I said opportunity or just plain stupidity on the owners part. For example a guy was to friendly letting in some new Koreans to his place. Flashed his pay and it was gone later. Or people did not lock their door and come back to find things gone.

Practice some basic security and you should be fine.

Bikes on the other hand, well that is fair game. Everybody I know has had a bike stolen.

Overall, Korea is a pretty safe and honest country compared to other places. Really do not worry too much about this, there are other things to worry about like contracts, laws, teaching, etc.


Like I previously said, burglars (the professional ones) look for easy targets and they want gold, not computers.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7 wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Blah Blah Blah


Like I previously said, burglars (the professional ones) look for easy targets and they want gold, not computers.


Yes, I remember the story either here on Waygook about a waygook who had his hoard of gold stolen from his apartment. Could never find the link again.

I think, it was his fault a bit for opening his mouth a telling people.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Low crime does not mean no crime.

The crime rate in Korea is a little higher than most people think. We don't see the local news (in general) so we don't hear the stories.

One or two here have described a robbery. I have also been robbed. Statistically, given the sample size of foreigners (or Dave's posters), that is actually of some concern.

CCTV is now in almost every apartment. That would not be because Koreans like to have their image caught (well, they do-lots of selfies), but actually reflects a fear of crime.

Why do Koreans have such fear of crime and Dave's posters do not? (Dave's posters are poor backpackers not worth the trouble-I kid, I kid).

It's a good question, err on the side of caution.
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've travelled around and lived in various countries. Korea is the only country that I have knowingly had anything stolen from me in and/or been robbed in. I kid you not. I know several Koreans who have had their homes broken into. After my second year here, it was out of the villas and into an apartment with a security guard.
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
How about leaving behind your computer geekiness and come to Korea to go out and you know... get a life? Razz


Owning a computer (or two) == having no life? Confused
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