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nicwr2002
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| Background check as in a federal background check from your home country or one from within Korea? |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Background check as in a federal background check from your home country or one from within Korea? |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Background check as in a federal background check from your home country or one from within Korea? |
I am under the impression that they are requesting a home country federal or national background check. This was not something F5 visa holders had to do in the past, but that has changed now too from what I am reading. I do believe there are some stipulations for not having to produce one for people who have not travelled outside of Korea during the duation of their visa, but I am not sure on that. If someone could verify that would be helpful to the discussion. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| So people with long term interests in staying here in Korea might want to consider going for citizenship. It is relatively easy to apply for right now, but it is going to change significantly. Also, up until now there has been no expiration on the F5 visa for permanent residency, but that is likely to change after the first of the year in 2014. The MOJ and Immigration is going to make the F5 a seven year renewal like it is in the USA. So, if you are considering moving from one visa to another, be sure to keep up on what is changing. |
Do you know if that includes people who already have an F-5 visa? I've had mine for about 7 or 8 years now.
Also, what are the current requirements for dual citizenship? |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| So people with long term interests in staying here in Korea might want to consider going for citizenship. It is relatively easy to apply for right now, but it is going to change significantly. Also, up until now there has been no expiration on the F5 visa for permanent residency, but that is likely to change after the first of the year in 2014. The MOJ and Immigration is going to make the F5 a seven year renewal like it is in the USA. So, if you are considering moving from one visa to another, be sure to keep up on what is changing. |
Do you know if that includes people who already have an F-5 visa? I've had mine for about 7 or 8 years now.
Also, what are the current requirements for dual citizenship? |
The current no-expiration F5 visas will convert over to a 7 year renewal when the new regulations go into effect, so that means anyone currently on an F5 will have to go in and have their visa changed to the renewal visa. That is the main reason why I went ahead and applied for my dual citizenship last year, because I knew things would be changing, but was not sure of the timing on it. So, now it looks like it is going to happen sooner than later.
Right now the current rules for dual citizenship when married to a Korean national are the simplified rules. Those are explained in the Citizenship Thread posted in the Sticky section of this General Forum. You can click there to find out more information about the regulations. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| nicwr2002 wrote: |
| Background check as in a federal background check from your home country or one from within Korea? |
I am under the impression that they are requesting a home country federal or national background check. This was not something F5 visa holders had to do in the past, but that has changed now too from what I am reading. I do believe there are some stipulations for not having to produce one for people who have not travelled outside of Korea during the duation of their visa, but I am not sure on that. If someone could verify that would be helpful to the discussion. |
Wow having to produce a FBI background check every year even though I only left the country for a few weeks is kinda crazy to me. I really hope they don't mean a federal check from your home country every year for a F6...I don't even need to get a FBI check when I renew on an E-2 unless they are changing that even if you are just changing schools. I can't imagine how the renewal process for a F6 visa is more difficult than an E-2. |
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chopstick
Joined: 03 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| So people with long term interests in staying here in Korea might want to consider going for citizenship. It is relatively easy to apply for right now, but it is going to change significantly. Also, up until now there has been no expiration on the F5 visa for permanent residency, but that is likely to change after the first of the year in 2014. The MOJ and Immigration is going to make the F5 a seven year renewal like it is in the USA. So, if you are considering moving from one visa to another, be sure to keep up on what is changing. |
Do you know if that includes people who already have an F-5 visa? I've had mine for about 7 or 8 years now.
Also, what are the current requirements for dual citizenship? |
The current no-expiration F5 visas will convert over to a 7 year renewal when the new regulations go into effect, so that means anyone currently on an F5 will have to go in and have their visa changed to the renewal visa. That is the main reason why I went ahead and applied for my dual citizenship last year, because I knew things would be changing, but was not sure of the timing on it. So, now it looks like it is going to happen sooner than later.
Right now the current rules for dual citizenship when married to a Korean national are the simplified rules. Those are explained in the Citizenship Thread posted in the Sticky section of this General Forum. You can click there to find out more information about the regulations. |
Tob55, are you sure about that? Won't it just be for F5's issued after that date? There is no expiry date on current F5 visas so how can they expire? Maybe you're right but I'd be interested to know how you know this for sure!
Another point is that I think it's ridiculous that a renewal of a marriage visa requires a CBC, it should be renewed based on you behaving in Korea and you being married legitimately... |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| chopstick wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| So people with long term interests in staying here in Korea might want to consider going for citizenship. It is relatively easy to apply for right now, but it is going to change significantly. Also, up until now there has been no expiration on the F5 visa for permanent residency, but that is likely to change after the first of the year in 2014. The MOJ and Immigration is going to make the F5 a seven year renewal like it is in the USA. So, if you are considering moving from one visa to another, be sure to keep up on what is changing. |
Do you know if that includes people who already have an F-5 visa? I've had mine for about 7 or 8 years now.
Also, what are the current requirements for dual citizenship? |
The current no-expiration F5 visas will convert over to a 7 year renewal when the new regulations go into effect, so that means anyone currently on an F5 will have to go in and have their visa changed to the renewal visa. That is the main reason why I went ahead and applied for my dual citizenship last year, because I knew things would be changing, but was not sure of the timing on it. So, now it looks like it is going to happen sooner than later.
Right now the current rules for dual citizenship when married to a Korean national are the simplified rules. Those are explained in the Citizenship Thread posted in the Sticky section of this General Forum. You can click there to find out more information about the regulations. |
Tob55, are you sure about that? Won't it just be for F5's issued after that date? There is no expiry date on current F5 visas so how can they expire? Maybe you're right but I'd be interested to know how you know this for sure!
Another point is that I think it's ridiculous that a renewal of a marriage visa requires a CBC, it should be renewed based on you behaving in Korea and you being married legitimately... |
In answer to the previous two posts, the MOJ and immigration service is working on a plan that would allow people who have been on a marriage visa or F5 visa to be able to get a simple background check in Korea IF the individual applying has not been absent from Korean for an extended period of time. They just have not decided what that amount of time is yet. I spoke recently with the official from the Chuncheon immigration office, and he assured me that they were trying to be fair to people with F-visas and had no intention of making it ridiculously impossible to complete the process of renewal.
As for the F5 change, that was something the gentleman at immigration said would affect everyone, regardless of how long they have had their F5 visa. Again, it was my conversation with the man that finally put me in a position to go ahead and seek my dual citizenship rather than staying on the F5. These wholesale changes have not taken effect yet, but I was told they are in the process of getting them ready to implement by the beginning of 2014. Whether or not that is a reality is yet to be seen as we all know that the best plans here in Korea often meet with unforseen obstacles that force them to push things back.
I had my initial conversation with immigration over a year ago, and as recently as May of this year (that is when my dual citizenship was granted) when I last spoke with my friend who is one of the main officials at the Chuncheon immigration office. This is how I was made aware of these things, and he indicated to me that it would be a nation-wide system change affecting every Province in the country. So, I hate to be the bearer or this news, but I think people need to be informed about it, and that is why I shared a little of what I know about it. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| So permanent residency will no longer be permanent even though it's already been granted. That makes no sense whatsoever. tob55 perhaps the officer you were speaking to was discussing his wishes rather than real policy changes. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| chopstick wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| So people with long term interests in staying here in Korea might want to consider going for citizenship. It is relatively easy to apply for right now, but it is going to change significantly. Also, up until now there has been no expiration on the F5 visa for permanent residency, but that is likely to change after the first of the year in 2014. The MOJ and Immigration is going to make the F5 a seven year renewal like it is in the USA. So, if you are considering moving from one visa to another, be sure to keep up on what is changing. |
Do you know if that includes people who already have an F-5 visa? I've had mine for about 7 or 8 years now.
Also, what are the current requirements for dual citizenship? |
The current no-expiration F5 visas will convert over to a 7 year renewal when the new regulations go into effect, so that means anyone currently on an F5 will have to go in and have their visa changed to the renewal visa. That is the main reason why I went ahead and applied for my dual citizenship last year, because I knew things would be changing, but was not sure of the timing on it. So, now it looks like it is going to happen sooner than later.
Right now the current rules for dual citizenship when married to a Korean national are the simplified rules. Those are explained in the Citizenship Thread posted in the Sticky section of this General Forum. You can click there to find out more information about the regulations. |
Tob55, are you sure about that? Won't it just be for F5's issued after that date? There is no expiry date on current F5 visas so how can they expire? Maybe you're right but I'd be interested to know how you know this for sure!
Another point is that I think it's ridiculous that a renewal of a marriage visa requires a CBC, it should be renewed based on you behaving in Korea and you being married legitimately... |
In answer to the previous two posts, the MOJ and immigration service is working on a plan that would allow people who have been on a marriage visa or F5 visa to be able to get a simple background check in Korea IF the individual applying has not been absent from Korean for an extended period of time. They just have not decided what that amount of time is yet. I spoke recently with the official from the Chuncheon immigration office, and he assured me that they were trying to be fair to people with F-visas and had no intention of making it ridiculously impossible to complete the process of renewal.
As for the F5 change, that was something the gentleman at immigration said would affect everyone, regardless of how long they have had their F5 visa. Again, it was my conversation with the man that finally put me in a position to go ahead and seek my dual citizenship rather than staying on the F5. These wholesale changes have not taken effect yet, but I was told they are in the process of getting them ready to implement by the beginning of 2014. Whether or not that is a reality is yet to be seen as we all know that the best plans here in Korea often meet with unforseen obstacles that force them to push things back.
I had my initial conversation with immigration over a year ago, and as recently as May of this year (that is when my dual citizenship was granted) when I last spoke with my friend who is one of the main officials at the Chuncheon immigration office. This is how I was made aware of these things, and he indicated to me that it would be a nation-wide system change affecting every Province in the country. So, I hate to be the bearer or this news, but I think people need to be informed about it, and that is why I shared a little of what I know about it. |
I really appreciate you taking the time to give us this information. I want to say this about the process though. I hope it's just a one time criminal check, since currently I don't have to have another CBC to renew my E-2 visa. I can't understand why though would make it so much more troublesome for someone on a F visa to get renewed. Maybe they will change the E-2 to a mandatory CBC with each renewal as well... |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| The background check is not only affecting the F2, F4, F6, and F5. It will soon be affecting those applying for dual citizenship as well. This is one of the changes that will come about before the end of this year. Right now there is no requirement for it, but when it happens a few other things will come into play as well. So people with long term interests in staying here in Korea might want to consider going for citizenship. It is relatively easy to apply for right now, but it is going to change significantly. Also, up until now there has been no expiration on the F5 visa for permanent residency, but that is likely to change after the first of the year in 2014. The MOJ and Immigration is going to make the F5 a seven year renewal like it is in the USA. So, if you are considering moving from one visa to another, be sure to keep up on what is changing. |
Interesting info. Thanks for posting. I wonder if they'll contact current F5 holders... ? |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the real target the Koreans have is USFK. They will demand criminal record checks from all civilian foreigners first. Then they will say to the U.S. Army that this is standard for all foreigners in Korea and expect them to produce a CRC for everyone stationed here. |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| So permanent residency will no longer be permanent even though it's already been granted. That makes no sense whatsoever. tob55 perhaps the officer you were speaking to was discussing his wishes rather than real policy changes. |
The bar seems to always be being moved. One would think that as an F-Visa holder one's met obligations would be grandfathered in as satisfactory enough to maintain their visa status. Many F-Visa holders have set up lives here and have built families and careers here. But, no. Eventually, you will need a perfect score on the TOEIC Test. Then, you will need to be able to juggle 4 razor sharp swords, with one hand, blindfolded. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Then, you will need to be able to juggle 4 razor sharp swords, with one hand, blindfolded. |
Sweet, I'm part-way there already |
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