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IPayInCash
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Over 250 posts in one month largely full of fictionalized jackassery, some things are going to stick. So, again... what is it that you do here? You can't even give out the general field of your fake occupation? |
Is it 250? Thanks Benji. Now keep beggin' for Bacon Strips.  |
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augustine
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, it was an arduous two clicks. So, we are now confirming that you're talking out of your ass and once again dodging questions about your bullshit, fake occupation where you make a bunch of money, do nothing, and dress however you want. Check. |
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IPayInCash
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| augustine wrote: |
| Oh, it was an arduous two clicks. So, we are now confirming that you're talking out of your ass and once again dodging questions about your bullshit, fake occupation where you make a bunch of money, do nothing, and dress however you want. Check. |
Swearing is a violation of the TOS. Please follow the rules. |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012 Location: México
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| That's what I thought. Nothing but a liar. |
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IPayInCash
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| augustine wrote: |
| That's what I thought. Nothing but a liar. |
Meltdown detected. |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012 Location: México
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| No, dude. Fraud detected. |
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Swampfox10mm
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Back on topic...
Yes, the PT work has degraded considerably per hour in the last year. The OP's post about pay is largely correct.
Certain government restrictions have done a lot to bring pay down. For example, I have heard it is now illegal for pre-schools/kindys (uchiwon) to teach English before noon. Many schools have thumbed their noses at this, but that number has been shrinking as many are being audited and likely facing fines for doing so. This has had an effect of shrinking the hours available for English teachers to work, because fewer students are around in the afternoons and certain other subjects take up those times due to other restrictions.
Pay used to be in the 40,000 range to teach Kindy. Now you're looking at 25,000 to 30,000 offered. Of course, they almost all prefer women.
Another interesting note -- and I know this because we just signed our daughter up -- a new gov't rule requiring more room space per student is threatening to force many uchiwon to close. The school my daughter will attend informed us of this, and is currently expanding because of it.
Basically, the goal of the gov't is to bring the cost of education down. They force hagwons to charge less, limit hours for teaching, and more. It's all having an impact on PT work. And then, of course, there are the flood of teachers here taking anything.
I don't hear of immigration going out and busting people anymore for it these days. I am sure it happens, but I just haven't heard of it for a long time since E-2's were allowed to do outside work, with approval. |
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IPayInCash
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| augustine wrote: |
| No, dude. Fraud detected. |
Meldown CONFIRMED. |
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augustine
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| This is excruciatingly mindless. We can now safely tack on immature and dumb to the liar part. |
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nicwr2002
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I"m not sure what you mean by 25,000 to 30,000 per hour. Unless your job's salary was 4 million won a month you wouldn't be making 25,000 an hour. Unless you were talking about private tutoring pay hours. Private tutoring still pays well in Gwangju, but I can understand how the pay rates are dropping in Seoul. Anyways, some one making 2,400,000 a month is only making $15.00 an hour based on a 40 hour work week. |
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edwardcatflap
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The overtime rate is not usually calculated by dividing your salary by the total number of hours you're supposed to be at work. Otherwise people on 2 million a month would get 12500 an hour overtime and I'm pretty sure public school teachers get around 20,000 an hour don't they? |
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Waygeek
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:37 am Post subject: |
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2.3? Yikes... theres no way Id live in this country for that peanuts salary. I guess its your first year though since thats how much first year teachers get paid. |
Erm, no. First years 2.1, maybe even 2.0. |
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IPayInCash
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
2.3? Yikes... theres no way Id live in this country for that peanuts salary. I guess its your first year though since thats how much first year teachers get paid. |
Erm, no. First years 2.1, maybe even 2.0. |
Yea for you.
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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what's sad about it? You are a dime a dozen English teacher and they know you were a loser (maybe you were maybe you weren't, but to Koreans you are) who couldn't find a job in your home country so came here to work. They will exploit you, short change you, then kick you to curb. And if you try to make a career out of ESL you deserve every last bit of it.
All ESL should be is getting your feet wet and making enough money to pay off student loans or for a quick 1 or 2 year experience, unless you get trapped by a Korean and get married. I was shot gunned married so I had no choice, only my wife was holding the shot gun--not her father. |
We cant all be like you Dodge7. Work at the embassy, talk to Obama once a week, and make 250k. Yes... us teachers are losers.  |
Clevetown is a baller, brah. |
Were being accused of being the same person on this forum brah. |
I saw clevetown getting destroyed on that other board. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Back on topic...
Yes, the PT work has degraded considerably per hour in the last year. The OP's post about pay is largely correct.
Certain government restrictions have done a lot to bring pay down. For example, I have heard it is now illegal for pre-schools/kindys (uchiwon) to teach English before noon. Many schools have thumbed their noses at this, but that number has been shrinking as many are being audited and likely facing fines for doing so. This has had an effect of shrinking the hours available for English teachers to work, because fewer students are around in the afternoons and certain other subjects take up those times due to other restrictions.
Pay used to be in the 40,000 range to teach Kindy. Now you're looking at 25,000 to 30,000 offered. Of course, they almost all prefer women.
Another interesting note -- and I know this because we just signed our daughter up -- a new gov't rule requiring more room space per student is threatening to force many uchiwon to close. The school my daughter will attend informed us of this, and is currently expanding because of it.
Basically, the goal of the gov't is to bring the cost of education down. They force hagwons to charge less, limit hours for teaching, and more. It's all having an impact on PT work. And then, of course, there are the flood of teachers here taking anything.
I don't hear of immigration going out and busting people anymore for it these days. I am sure it happens, but I just haven't heard of it for a long time since E-2's were allowed to do outside work, with approval. |
Ah, nothing like the government to stick it's nose where it doesn't belong to drive up unemployment rates. I'm sure they do it in other areas too. I keep hearing how young people in Korea can't find a job. To think we ran away from places like this only to find too much government interfering here too. Sad!
But, why would the government forbid teaching English before noon? That is one of the stupidest and most ridiculous things I have ever heard of. Why should it be any of their business? |
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