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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: Re: South Korean hospital won’t transfer American |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
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This isn't the UK, Canada or Oklahoma (where all but the county hospital would have refused to treat him in the first place).
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This is full of it. In the US, all hospitals have to provide treatment if the patient is in danger of losing his life or being permanently maimed or is in pain by Act of Congress. In general large public hospitals are likely to be Level IV hospitals and are just as well equipped as private hospitals, when it comes to trauma they are better equipped |
Once Obamecare kills the insurance industry and the USA is on socialized medicine, this will be typical. Is your life worth the $$ the gov't has to spend on treatment? No, as Obama himself said, "Take a pain pill." |
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rainman3277
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
| This is why you shouldn't lie on your health check. |
Man, you really are a grade A douche |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: South Korean hospital won’t transfer American |
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| lithium wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
This isn't the UK, Canada or Oklahoma (where all but the county hospital would have refused to treat him in the first place).
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This is full of it. In the US, all hospitals have to provide treatment if the patient is in danger of losing his life or being permanently maimed or is in pain by Act of Congress. In general large public hospitals are likely to be Level IV hospitals and are just as well equipped as private hospitals, when it comes to trauma they are better equipped |
Once Obamecare kills the insurance industry and the USA is on socialized medicine, this will be typical. Is your life worth the $$ the gov't has to spend on treatment? No, as Obama himself said, "Take a pain pill." |
What's in that tea you're drinking? Smells like teen ignorance. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Once Obamecare kills the insurance industry and the USA is on socialized medicine, this will be typical. Is your life worth the $$ the gov't has to spend on treatment? No, as Obama himself said, "Take a pain pill." |
Good lord man...
Ok, what do you mean by "socialized medecine"? Seriously, I am curious.
How do you think universal healthcare functions? I mean did you try to read up on it? |
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TexasChicken
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:18 am Post subject: My idea. |
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Someone should call Yonsei. Introduce themself as a CNN reporter and ask for an interview. I doubt it would make much difference though.
I guess I will donate some cash situations like these suck.
Best wishes to the family.
T.C. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| Come to think of it, why not just call CNN and tell them about it. Maybe they will report about cases like his. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Holding him but refusing to treat him is quite barbaric and something that you would expect from a more primitive savage country and not a developed one like South Korea. I sure hope the family can at least find a way to sue this hospital in US Court if they have any holdings in the US. But it may not likely be possible. Absolutely barbaric and truly despicable! At least keep treating him until ithe either recovers or can go back home. (...and I do mean treat him to full medical standards not just a bare minimum.) |
What stopped him from getting a ticket back to the US when he was sick? NOTHING, the stupid kid chose to stay here, despite knowing the country is "primitive and barbaric" as you say. He only wants to leave now because he has an unpaid bill. Wow, what else is new.
Instead of caring about his life and getting better care in the US, he cared about saving money because in Korea he had national health insurance (which paid most of his bill). So, what he gets is what he deserves.
Also, his parents were more than useless too. His bill started off at 10,000. Yet his parents couldn't even pull this money together? How incompetent can a family get. Don't you have any assets (house, car, pension) you can get a loan from to help save your son.
This kid should be thanking the Korean taxpayer and the charity of foreigners, because he and his family have done nothing other than GET GET GET money from everyone else. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Was he aware of his illness before coming to Korea? Either way, good luck to him. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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So he had NHIC before he got sick. Hmm maybe I will donate. I am sick and tired of seeing please of help for people who should have had insurance.
Korean/American girl hurt in India, decide to skimp on the travel insurance.
Waygook working illegally at a hagwon and decided to go rock climbing. Broke a leg.
Guy got drunk and fell down stairs. Damaged teeth badly, wanted to donations to pay for his dental work.
Those I can think of on top of my head.
As to the deny a person to leave hispital before paying bills. It is quite common. I remember reading a story of a couple who had there baby at a private hospital and they could not take their kid home till they paid the bill. Death does not even solve the problem. Bill Kaplan who died years ago in a fire, his body would not be released to his family till the bill was paid.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Bill_Kapoun
I really need to get some supplemental insurance. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I will agree on one thing and said so before: expats that do not get supplemental health insurance or that do not save money in case of injury are basically asking for trouble.
If you cannot afford health insurance then perhaps it might be best to re-consider your plans about moving to live abroad... |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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The thing is, a lot of the newer, younger crowd are under the illusion that the national health insurance covers these things. We can't fault them for ignorance. I ended up having to pay over 2 million won for 5 days in the hospital when my appendix was removed. Granted, a few hundred thousand of that was for the upgraded, 2-person room (there was no way I was staying in a room with 4 or 5 other people and their families), but it was a lot out of pocket. It was less than it would have been in the states, but that's not really a good country for comparisons, because the healthcare system there (pricewise) is fecked beyond belief.
The fact is that he had insurance. He wasn't the same as those idiots who opt out, saying "I'm young and healthy."
Sure, it would be great if the national insurance was explained more in detail, but we can't really fault him for this. I didn't have extra insurance for my first few years.
The best we can do is try to share this info with as many people as possible, and hope that more people take heed. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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The thing is, a lot of the newer, younger crowd are under the illusion that the national health insurance covers these things. We can't fault them for ignorance. I ended up having to pay over 2 million won for 5 days in the hospital when my appendix was removed. Granted, a few hundred thousand of that was for the upgraded, 2-person room (there was no way I was staying in a room with 4 or 5 other people and their families), but it was a lot out of pocket. It was less than it would have been in the states, but that's not really a good country for comparisons, because the healthcare system there (pricewise) is fecked beyond belief.
The fact is that he had insurance. He wasn't the same as those idiots who opt out, saying "I'm young and healthy."
Sure, it would be great if the national insurance was explained more in detail, but we can't really fault him for this. I didn't have extra insurance for my first few years.
The best we can do is try to share this info with as many people as possible, and hope that more people take heed. |
good point, also didn't he lose his NHIC when his ps let him go after like a month in the hospital? If thats true, thats awful |
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amo_jh
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
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If I have something more serious than a cold, I go to an international clinic near me that has a doctor with a license to practice in the US. |
This is what amazes me about lifers planning on retiring here. Sure you can get supplemental insurance, but that doesn't improve the health care or ambulance service.
If you think of back home you'll know of some uncle, or family friend that had a heart attack, and had heart surgery. Here, I honestly think, if you have a heart attack, you'll be dead. |
Are you saying that Korean doctors are incapable of treating heart attack patients or cardiac surgeons here can't do simple bypass surgeries? If you get a killer heat attack, in Korea or in US, you are dead. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Skippy wrote: |
| So he had NHIC before he got sick. Hmm maybe I will donate. I am sick and tired of seeing please of help for people who should have had insurance. |
The 40,000 is his CO-PAY. He has posted his bill online in the past, at various stages. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
The thing is, a lot of the newer, younger crowd are under the illusion that the national health insurance covers these things. We can't fault them for ignorance. I ended up having to pay over 2 million won for 5 days in the hospital when my appendix was removed. Granted, a few hundred thousand of that was for the upgraded, 2-person room (there was no way I was staying in a room with 4 or 5 other people and their families), but it was a lot out of pocket. It was less than it would have been in the states, but that's not really a good country for comparisons, because the healthcare system there (pricewise) is fecked beyond belief.
The fact is that he had insurance. He wasn't the same as those idiots who opt out, saying "I'm young and healthy."
Sure, it would be great if the national insurance was explained more in detail, but we can't really fault him for this. I didn't have extra insurance for my first few years.
The best we can do is try to share this info with as many people as possible, and hope that more people take heed. |
good point, also didn't he lose his NHIC when his ps let him go after like a month in the hospital? If thats true, thats awful |
NHIC is MANDATORY whether you are employed or not.
He could have made an application for NHIC as an unemployed person and paid the premium out of his pocket/account, as long as he had kept his ARC card extended and valid.
I believe he did this. |
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