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le-paul · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre

america really wants to win a war outright, maybe this is the one?

Died By Bear · Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:19 am Post subject:

Nah, let France and the other big boys stop Assad. Syria doesn't have anything we want.

12ax7 · Joined: 07 Nov 2009

darkjedidave · Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Location: Shanghai/Seoul

Died By Bear · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:46 am Post subject:

Nester Noodlemon · Joined: 16 Jan 2009

Proud owner of shares in Lockheed Martin and Halliburton.

Very Happy

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

I agree with much of what has been said regarding drawing down US commitments around the world. I, too, advocate evacuating most of the US's bases around the world.

Nevertheless, a US base, once no longer a given, could become the new punitive strike. So, US forces would remain in South Korea, for as long as South Korea will have them, as a punitive presence against North Korea for their withdrawal from the NPT and later development of nuclear weapons.

As for Syria, I propose a constant carrier presence near their shores. If Assad continues to deploy chemical weapons, we request bases in Kurdish Iraq, which would appropriately punish Assad and his Iranian sponsors.

Zackback · Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Kyungbuk

"In war there is no substitute for victory." (Douglas MacArthur)

go all out or don't send troops, planes bombs etc in.

all or nothing.

don't want all? then do nothing

don't want to do nothing? then level the place, go in and set up martial law until things get "normal" (whatever that means).....rioters, dissenters will be executed on the spot
its the only way to deal with these people......toughness
any sign of weakness, so called fair play will just be an invitation to prolong the bloodshed (Iraq).

IPayInCash · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:54 am Post subject:

When the US sits back and watches countries whine about needing their help.

When the US intervenes everyone whines about "world police."

It's a double edged sword. As an American I'm neutral on Syria but think they should do what the AMERICAN people want, I couldn't care less what people from Europe or Canada think. And the AMERICAN people are STRONGLY opposed to a war on Syria, but it looks like America is gonna go ahead with it anyways.

ttompatz · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea

IPayInCash · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:51 am Post subject:

Steelrails · Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System

This war is theirs. They must fight it out themselves.

Either level the place, raze the cities, and slaughter them by the millions or don't do it at all.

Died By Bear · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:53 am Post subject:

From another thread:

Turkey has placed its military on alert and says it would support military action against Assad's regime, which shot down a Turkish RF-4 Phantom fighter jet in 2012. Right now, it seems like all Turkey has said it will do to support strikes against Assad is offer the use of the NATO base at Incirlik to the United States.

If Turkey decides to play a more muscular role in strikes against Assad, its air force is likely the military branch that will carry it out. The Turkish air force is equipped with the SOM missile and the standoff land attack missile; both are long-range cruise missiles that are carried by the service's 196 F-16 Falcon fighter jets. Turkey has also placed anti-aircraft missile batteries along its border with Syria to defend from attack by Assad's missiles and aircraft.

France says it is preparing for action against Syria and already has a detachment of cruise-missile-carrying fighter jets -- three to six Mirage 2000s or Rafales -- alongside the American planes at Al Dhafra in the UAE. The French Navy frigate Chevalier Paul, armed to the teeth with anti-aircraft and anti-missile missiles, is also said to be steaming toward the eastern Mediterranean, though the French government says the ship is merely conducting a training cruise.

Jordan isn't taking any chances and is hosting American Patriot air defense missiles and a detachment of about 12 U.S. Air Force F-16 Falcon fighter jets. These American forces are there to protect Jordan from any attack by Assad's forces and not to participate in strikes against Syria.

Britian, sent six Typhoon fighter jets to their base on Cyprus, RAF (Royal Air Force) Akrotiri. Then the British Parliament got involved and said that Britain can't participate in any strike against Syria. It looks like the RAF's insistence that these fighters are not going to participate in any strikes against Syria and are merely there to protect British facilities in the region is legit.

Iran and Hezbollah, Iran's proxy in Syria and Lebanon, are heavily involved in defending the Assad regime from the largely Sunni rebels fighting it. Iran doesn't have any warships or major military facilities near Syria. However, the Quds force, Iran's special unit responsible for conducting clandestine military operations overseas, has been helping the Syrian military fight the rebels for more than a year by providing training and materiel. While the vast majority of Syria's military hardware comes from the former Soviet Union and China, Iran gives the Assad regime drones, ballistic missiles, artillery rockets, and anti-tank missiles.

Russia, Syria's longtime ally and top weapons supplier, is urging the United States not to strike Syria and is sending the guided-missile cruiser Moskva and an unidentified anti-submarine ship from its Northern Fleet to the eastern Mediterranean. Still, Russian military officials insist this deployment is part of a normal training rotation and is not linked to the situation in Syria, reported Russia's state-owned RIA Novosti news agency on Aug. 29. Russia's only overseas naval base in located in the Syrian port of Tartus and is used to support Russia's increasing number of naval patrols on the Mediterranean Sea.

As for Israel, while its leaders say it won't participate in U.S.-led strikes on Assad, its air force has been striking targets inside Syria throughout the last year, usually hitting arms depots or weapons convoys in hopes of preventing some of Syria's more advanced weapons from being shipped to terrorist organizations. As talk of a U.S. strike on Syria ramps up, the Israeli military has mobilized reserve forces, massing them on its northern border near Syria. Israeli government officials have said that Israel will punch back if Syria, Iran, or Hezbollah attacks it in response to American airstrikes.

So the British backed out. What does that leave us with? Turkey, France and the US against Assad, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.

The media can't control what you think, but it can control what you think about.

Anyone remember what 'Thin Red Line' means?

The red line should be defined as our interests. If it does not involve us or is not a threat to us / allies/ interests we should not get involved.

Anything but what they are doing to us here...

Nothing to see here...

Look at the shiny new war over there... Don't look at what we are doing here.

Of course using gas on his people warrants Assad a response. Why must it come from us? Why should we do the dirty, expensive work when there are others with more skin in the game than us?

Benghazi warranted a response. Shooting down a helicopter full of SEALs warranted a response. Thugs killing innocents everyday in this country warrant at least as much of a response as the Zimmerman/Martin circus. But there is none.