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Otherside
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
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They must stop granting 6 month tourist visas.
1 or 2 months is enough for any genuine tourist to see the "sights".
Any westerner renewing a second or third tourist visa should provide evidence including phone numbers of why, where and what they will be doing. Even proof of earnings or employment from their place of origin.
Its pretty obvious the vast majority of single 20-something north americans re-entering Korea over and over are not here to see Caribea bay. |
And if Korean immigration takes away the six months tourist visa, you can then expect to hear a big whine from Koreans who want to go to or live in Canada. The six month visa is a reciprocal agreement. Canada gets it fair share of illegal workers, too. Actually Canada gets it worse off. One, Korea gets illegal English Teachers and Canada we get whores. Two, Canada gets more long term illegals, who just stay and do not go back. |
Then it only makes sense for both countries to abolish the 6-month visa.
Anyone wanting to stay beyond e.g. 2 months is necesarily not a tourist, and they should either transfer to a work visa or student visa or leave.
Handing out unlimited 6 month stays is basically granting residency status to illegal workers. |
You think? My mother came over for nearly 4 months when my kid was born. She was definitely not here to earn a salary. She actually lost a considerable amount of money as she was unable to accept contracts during her stay. Same with my wife. We stayed in Canada for 9 weeks one summer (the perks of having a lot of vacation). She was there for legitimate reasons (we were visiting my family). |
No one is saying people shouldn't be allowed to stay in Korea for a few months, however, a 6 month, no paperwork stamp at the airport just opens the door a bit too much. If someone has a legitimate reason to stay in Korea for longer than say 3 months, they can easily extend the visa at immigration (what would an American or Brit have done in your mother's situation? Yet I've never seen any complain about "only having 3 months").
With regards to limiting tourist stamps, it could have unnecessary consequences. I fly into Korea on my way to XYZ, decide to stopover and spend 3 days in Seoul, does that count as my first stamp?
With regards to the benefits of the 6 month waiver on the Canadian economy, that's actually irrelevant. In this case, Korea needs to decide what's best for Korea, not what's best for the Canadian ESL industry. If they feel the problems caused by the Canadian reciprocal visas outweigh the con's then they should change it, if not, then they shouldn't, but then they can hardly be surprised when some take advantage. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| That is killing a bug with a sledgehammer. |
Seems like a pretty big bug. More trouble than its worth, for both governments.
How many hundreds of thousands of Koreans work and even live illegally in the US/ canada, not paying taxes and taking jobs that north americans could be doing? Are involved in vice or prostitution etc? How much does that cost your govt to try and keep a lid on?
And then in Korea. You have a flood of illegal workers making much more than those who work legally, on a proper visa. They pay no taxes, to boot and they take all their earnings out of the country.
both groups exist in a subculture that is entirely unregulated and open to abuses.
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| I also have to say the 6-month visa was great when my mother visited after our son was born. she stayed 4 months as well. |
She would be in the minority though surely.
You have to realise how abnormal a sixth month visa is. Recipocity is a fine thing but in reality both countries are not equal. Most countries of the world grant 30-day or 90-day max tourist visas. Unlimited repeat blocks of 6 months? Korea may as well be the 51st state. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:06 am Post subject: |
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The issue you are discussing is small in proportion to the greater number of tourists who visit Canada / Korea.
sledge hammer for a smaller bug.
51st state?
The agreement is Canada - Korea.
The US has no such agreement with Korea. Americans are on a 3 month tourist visa (repeatable) and Koreans still require a visa to visit the US. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| The US has no such agreement with Korea. Americans are on a 3 month tourist visa (repeatable) and Koreans still require a visa to visit the US. |
Nope... Americans only recently got the 90-day waiver (it used to be 30 prior to the FTA) and Korea is on the visa waiver program in the States (but they still need to do the ESTA (as does everyone else from all other countries in the visa waiver program)).
note: Canada is NOT part of the US visa waiver program.
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| How many times have I told you kids over the years to stay away from Korean recruiters and use recruiters based in the west? If you must use a Korean recruitment agency, only use the large ones like footprints or korvia. Stay away from every other small dirtbag Korean recruiter. Even when they are registered with the government, many still lie and put you in bad jobs to make a buck. Man, there's a sucker born every minute! If we all boycott them, they'll go the way of the do-do bird and less of this crap will happen..... |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| The US has no such agreement with Korea. Americans are on a 3 month tourist visa (repeatable) and Koreans still require a visa to visit the US. |
Nope... Americans only recently got the 90-day waiver (it used to be 30 prior to the FTA) and Korea is on the visa waiver program in the States (but they still need to do the ESTA (as does everyone else from all other countries in the visa waiver program)).
note: Canada is NOT part of the US visa waiver program.
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I've never checked. Does a Canadian get 6 months or is it only 90 days too as a tourist? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| The US has no such agreement with Korea. Americans are on a 3 month tourist visa (repeatable) and Koreans still require a visa to visit the US. |
Nope... Americans only recently got the 90-day waiver (it used to be 30 prior to the FTA) and Korea is on the visa waiver program in the States (but they still need to do the ESTA (as does everyone else from all other countries in the visa waiver program)).
note: Canada is NOT part of the US visa waiver program.
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I've never checked. Does a Canadian get 6 months or is it only 90 days too as a tourist? |
A Canadian in Korea or in the US? |
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