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Certified to Teach (but have not taught), what are my option
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watergirl



Joined: 01 Jul 2008
Location: Ansan, south korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are definitely going to find lots of offers here for jobs. So you can be picky! Being female, unfair, really helps first of all, but, many of the foreginers don't have education degrees, and you DO. You're probably the pick of the litter. Although, you don't have teaching experience here, you have real teaching experience back home, and that is miles above many or most of the teachers here.
PS: that army job is probably pretty cushy in terms of guaranteed pay, and maybe less hours, et.
Safety: Its VERY safe here. I feel it's the same as back home for me(I'm from Canada) but all my American friends feel its much safer here than back in the US. Although, maybe be somewhat cautious if you get n army job I guess. Most soldiers seem very nice, of course.
WEight: It's kind of strange, but to be honest, I'd say quite a few foreigners are more overweight here than back home. So, you won't feel really overweight here, (the koreans r very small of course) I think, as really are quite a few, very large foreigners here.
Don't know if this is just my perception, but there it is.
And, I've noticed this is especially true of army personnel.
Sorry, hope I'm not offending anyone.
jobs...REally, you have to always never really believe the recruiters..they will downplay location and any negatives of the job. Always double check what they say. The best thing, is to speak or email another foreigner to get most of the truth. If a recruiter says no, simply insist on this, and they will give it to you.
Also, try not to go to a hakwon, unless, you see that several foreginers have stayed there for awhile, more than 1 year, or its a large hakwon, say it has at least 3 foreginers there.
If you don't get the military teaching pos, then you might try for a public school job. If you can't get that, get in a hakwaon with several foreigners, who seem fairly happy there.
Good luck
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AshScof



Joined: 31 Aug 2013

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7 wrote:
Is your certification valid outside of your home state? Did you look at jobs in different US states? If you haven't already, I'd do that if I were you. I'd start with Alaska since few people want to move there. You don't need to come halfway around the world.


Some states do transfer, some don't. But, why? I mean, Alaska would be just as far away from my family (in terms of how often I could visit) as South Korea. And realistically, I will never be able to travel the world on a vacation. Why not do it when I am young and being paid to work in a country I can't visit on my own?
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Daniel1981



Joined: 30 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
AshScof wrote:
It took a while to find the application but I did. Razz What are some of the benefits of working with the DOD as opposed to a public school. I am assuming the pay is higher. My biggest concern (and it is a silly concern) is driving. I don't have a license. I have a permit, can drive a bit, but I am awful at it.


Working for Uncle Sam instead of a Korean Provincial government (not living on the local economy)
Getting paid in greenbacks (don't have to sweat the fluctuation in KRW).
Access to the bases (not much different than living at home).
All the other benefits that working at a US government job brings to the table.
Working in your field.
Having students who can actually speak American.

What's not to like.

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Haha, speak American Very Happy
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew345 wrote:
Again, big point: if you ever get a foreign visa in your passport, you have to move back to America to get hired by the DODEA. It seems to be for some kind of tax reasons (you are effectively still on American soil while you are overseas).


This is not true.

I currently work for the DODEA at Seoul American Middle School. I worked for EPIK in Gyeongsan, around Daegu, and ended my contract on a Tuesday with EPIK and started with the DODEA school on Wednesday.

If you're in Korea and get picked up by DODEA your considered a local hire and will not receive housing or travel benefits. You will get everything a teacher hired from the States gets except housing(LQA) and travel (RAT).

We have two new teacher this year that were hired out of either a hagwon or Korean PS.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew345 wrote:
If you are Special Ed qualified, you are gold for a job with the department of defense , which has many bases in Korea and Japan.
I am trying to get in as a math / physics teacher, but they are looking for mostly Special Ed teachers this year.
The website is:
http://www.dodea.edu/
and the forum is:
http://teachers.net/mentors/DOD/posts.html

The first thing to note is dont take a position in Korea before applying to DODEA, or you will just have to move back to America to get a job with them. They only hire from US, not overseas (a bit oversimplified, but that is the jest of it).


Again this is not true. They hire local all the time. Mostly military spouses but there are at least 7 people, and more I don't know about, that worked in a hagwon or Korean PS that got picked up by DoDEA in the past 3 years.

We had about 24 positions open on the peninsula that needed to be filled. At the end of last year. I'm in a SPED position at Seoul American Middle School and with all the sequestration ad furloughs I lost my job last year. Then someone in our department resigned and I got my job back.

DoDEA can be a great palce to work but there are many people that are looking to climb the ladder of success and will do anything to get there. They do't care who they step on to do it either. This happens everywhere but seems much more prevalent in DoDEA.

It takes two years and a successful evaluation to be a permanent employee(tenure) with DoDEA. You won't receive that status until the fall of your third year. At the end of that year you could apply for a transfer but are put in a pool with everyone else that is eligible. But not everyone has the same eligibilty, it's on a seniority . However, some years when there are budget cuts, like the 2012-2013 school year the transfer round is not available. Many schools with DoDEA are closing, mostly in Europe, and if you aren't permanent they can and will let you go when they see fit because they must place a teacher that is permanent before you can keep your job. They went as far last year as to offer people, if they were eligible, $25,000 to retire or seperate from DoDEA.


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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public schools in Taiwan; as good as Korea. They only hire Native English Teacher's that are licensed in their own countries. If you are interested in teaching in Taiwan they will definitely be welcoming you. With a few years of English experience you can jump off to the Middle East if you want to. Personally Taiwan probably is better, you might just want to continue teaching there.

You also might want to get K-12 experience in any International school you can get hired by and work your way up to a nicer International school.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AshScof wrote:
12ax7 wrote:
Is your certification valid outside of your home state? Did you look at jobs in different US states? If you haven't already, I'd do that if I were you. I'd start with Alaska since few people want to move there. You don't need to come halfway around the world.


Some states do transfer, some don't. But, why? I mean, Alaska would be just as far away from my family (in terms of how often I could visit) as South Korea. And realistically, I will never be able to travel the world on a vacation. Why not do it when I am young and being paid to work in a country I can't visit on my own?


With the vacation you'd get as a public school teacher in the US, you'd be able to travel all you want.

I'm using Alaska as an example. I was making the point that there are plenty of jobs available in the US for teachers if you're willing to relocate, and after a few years of experience you'll be earning an excellent salary.

Sure, come on over to Korea if that's what you really want, but don't leave your country thinking it's your only option. It's not.
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actionjackson



Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: Any place I'm at

PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another option: http://www.aiscr.org/#!employment/c1zwm
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