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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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According to that link there were also females complaining.
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Kang Hyun-ju (@nymphtintin), a female university student, tweeted [ko]:
지하철 여성 전용칸은 진짜 무리수.노약자 임산부 전용좌석도 안지켜지는데.
The women-only subway compartment is unreasonable. Even the already existing ‘seat for weak, old, disabled and pregnant women’ is barely working. |
Also it doesn't say anywhere in that link that they are dropping it. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| So let's try again. Can you, Steelrails, admit here and now that the Japanese have better manners than Koreans? |
Never been to Japan. Can't say. |
I don't believe there's a poster on this site that believes you've never been to Japan. How many years have you been in Korea? You've certainly been posting on this site for a few years now. There's not many long-timers here who have never popped over to Japan at least once or twice. Never done a visa run, visited Tokyo, spent a long weekend in Osaka? I've been to Japan eight times, so I find it a bit doubtful that you've never been even once. My guess is that you have, and you KNOW Japan is cleaner and more civilized than Korea. To avoid having to admit that you say you've never been. Nobody here buys that, and we take your pretense to the contrary as your tacit acknowledgement of what people have been saying in this thread.
Never been to Japan. |
Yeah, I can see why you'd think that... because you've been there 8 times. But for others, like SR and Fox, it doesn't hold true.
Personally, I've never taken a vacation in Japan. Thought about it, but always opted for SE Asian beaches. Did do a visa run about 12 years ago there... and almost got arrested in the process, but I don't think that'd give me all that much experience with Japan. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Threequalseven wrote: |
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| it's typical for the japanese not to learn much academia until around 10 years old. schooling before then is all about manners and how to behave. this should happen in america in my opinion. |
This is what nearly half of my hagwon classes turn into anyway.
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| Koreans are all flash and no substance... Even the people are obsessed with looks, to the detriment of developing a personality... The artificial Korean girls lack manners and class, but think an expensive handbag and a new nose can overcome it. It can't. |
Damn. This coming from the guy who was talking about banging stunners a couple months ago.  I find myself agreeing with you more and more lately. |
You've got me all wrong. I was talking about a poster who was married and working hard to save money. It was his wife who I referred to as a stunner as well as making other comments regarding how good his life might be. I wasn't talking about me going out and shagging all the hotties in Seoul. I'm an ugly pleb. I've got a long term girlfriend but I'm fucked if I know why she's with me. Maybe it's the manners, class, and personality I have. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
According to that link there were also females complaining.
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Kang Hyun-ju (@nymphtintin), a female university student, tweeted [ko]:
지하철 여성 전용칸은 진짜 무리수.노약자 임산부 전용좌석도 안지켜지는데.
The women-only subway compartment is unreasonable. Even the already existing ‘seat for weak, old, disabled and pregnant women’ is barely working. |
Also it doesn't say anywhere in that link that they are dropping it. |
You're right. The girls was saying that the 'seat for weak, old, disabled and pregnant women' isn't being respected by the majority of Koreans, so why would they respect a woman only carriage.
What an embarrassment. According to the student you highlighted, Koreans can't even give up seats for the weak, old, disabled, and pregnant. Talk about a lack of manners.
In regards to the scheme being dropped - the article states the initiative would be implemented in September 2011. I used to travel to work on line 2 and i never saw the women only carriage. I'm not on line 2 as often these days but I've still never seen the female only carriage. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Has anybody mentioned the music yet? I won't go into detail about my opinion of K-Pop other than to say I don't think it could be more generic if they tried. I couldn't tell you how many times I've listened to a K-pop song and heard the exact same melody as some R&B song back home. I even heard a tune with the same chorus as the high school graduation song.
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Ah the music. K-pop is literally a cut and paste of blatantly stolen or sampled bits of the most annoying and cliche parts of pop. Take the worst pieces of 80's syrup ballads, a few parts wanna-be rapping... take out all rhythm and funk and decent melody, add some fancy costumes and robot voices, and remix the same recipe endlessly.
While by contrast some decent stuff has come out of Japan, not only from J-pop, but other genres like Jazz, Noise, Electronic, Experimental, etc. Japanese groups take an existing genre and tend to add to it or have a new take on it to make their own sound, While here, it's mostly all copy, cut, paste, done. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
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We all judge by our OWN standards, there's no getting around that. Of course there are different standards of politeness, but some behaviors almost always fall towards the IMPOLITE side of the scale, no matter what culture you are from.
Some examples:
Slamming into a person
Not apologizing after slamming into a person
making excessive noise
pointing
staring
laughing at others
spitting
littering
asking very personal or probing questions
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MOST (maybe not all) people from various cultures around the world would view most of these as at least a little impolite.? |
No doubt, but my question is this: what do you, personally, get out of coming online and continually ramming the point home again and again and again? What is so vital about turning every discussion about living in Korea into yet another battleground about cultural differences? If I want, say, travel tips for Seoul, how does someone replying that Seoul is boring and Koreans don't know how to promote tourism (true or not) answer my question? (That was a hypothetical example, btw).
That's my problem with this website - it has access to a variety of people with different experiences and ideas, and as such there must be a wealth of useful info out there for people to use to navigate Korea, both the good and the bad. But almost EVERYTHING devolves into yet another blast at some deficiency of Korea or Koreans, which are then often countered by just as pointless comparisons to the downsides of other countries.
So, again, I'm not really arguing the truth of what Koreans do or don't do as a people but instead asking you why it is so important for you to spread the negative message about Koreans (or Japanese, or Americans, or Canadians etc.) so far and wide? What do you get out of it? How does it make your life better? How does it make ANYONE'S life better? |
Ridiculous. The very same questions could be asked of you.
I don't think you were addressing me specifically but rather wrapping up all your complaints and whines about how you don't like some of the content others may be posting. Great, thanks for sharing.
Consider the context: this thread is about comparisons between Japanese and Koreans, and people are free to post their own impressions and opinions on the matter.
If you don't like how Koreans are faring in these comparisons, well... tough s**t.
Maybe write some posts glorifying them so you can feel you are balancing out the topic somewhat.
But whining to the rest of us and trying to question our motives or opinions as though we have to justify ourselves to you is just silly.
I'm pretty sure you're over-thinking it; it's not like people have some wicked agenda when they post on here. Most people just write what they feel.
Korea is a very "particular" place with many aspects that rub visitors the wrong way. That means some impressions will be negative at times and people are going to share what they want on an Internet forum. Pretty natural thing.
You (and the apologista crowd) are just going to have to deal with that, or just keep doing the Don Quixote thing. Have fun with that. |
I need paragraphs, man. Paragraphs! |
Nice dodge!  |
Yeah, of course, because what you write is nonsense, and it would go against my entire point to debate you on it - remember, I want less of that crap, not to wallow in it. So, I decided to give you some writing advice on the off-chance you ever get around to a topic I'm interested in. |
Well, Trannie, the "nonsense" you speak of tore you a new one so it doesn't matter if you don't respond as wasn't looking for a debate. But don't try to pawn off your dodge as "writing advice". What a laugh. We aren't writing essays here, but if we were, you're in no position to be giving any advice after your whiny screeds where you just couldn't take it that some posters made comparisons you didn't agree with. |
My, aren't we super-proud of ourselves today? Any other morale-boosting compliments you want to give yourself while you are here? I bet you hair is looking super-fantastic today. Why not fill us in? |
As a matter of fact, it IS looking great today! Thanks so much for asking!
(And good job offering a real come-back to end with. "Paragraphs" ? Booo...) |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
| Threequalseven wrote: |
Has anybody mentioned the music yet? I won't go into detail about my opinion of K-Pop other than to say I don't think it could be more generic if they tried. I couldn't tell you how many times I've listened to a K-pop song and heard the exact same melody as some R&B song back home. I even heard a tune with the same chorus as the high school graduation song.
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Ah the music. K-pop is literally a cut and paste of blatantly stolen or sampled bits of the most annoying and cliche parts of pop. Take the worst pieces of 80's syrup ballads, a few parts wanna-be rapping... take out all rhythm and funk and decent melody, add some fancy costumes and robot voices, and remix the same recipe endlessly.
While by contrast some decent stuff has come out of Japan, not only from J-pop, but other genres like Jazz, Noise, Electronic, Experimental, etc. Japanese groups take an existing genre and tend to add to it or have a new take on it to make their own sound, While here, it's mostly all copy, cut, paste, done. |
Boredoms and Boris are better than any Korean bands I've ever heard. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:18 am Post subject: |
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As a matter of fact, it IS looking great today! Thanks so much for asking!
(And good job offering a real come-back to end with. "Paragraphs" ? Booo...) |
Bloody hell, that was ages ago I asked that. For all I know, you could have gone and got a haircut since then. Unfair.
Anyway, paragraphs are important. They each focus on one main point, allowing the reader to easily skim the opening line of each to determine the logic of the argument. If you simply write sentence by sentence, the reader has a lot tougher time determining how they all fit together.
I've had this conversation with roughly 7,691 freshmen students. |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Japanese executives I've talked to in corporate English lessons tell me that they'd rather deal with and negotiate with Koreans as opposed to dealing with Chinese, who are are more American like in their negotiation styles.
I've said this for years and still believe it: Even though the Japanese and Koreans hate each other, they are very similar. So much so that they actually can do business in wasys that are comfortable to them because of their similar social customs and practices.
Chinese observe none of the social customs and practices that the Japanese and Koreans value. The Chinese work well with American and other western companies in negotiating business deals and communication. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody hell, that was ages ago I asked that. For all I know, you could have gone and got a haircut since then. Unfair.
Anyway, paragraphs are important. They each focus on one main point, allowing the reader to easily skim the opening line of each to determine the logic of the argument. If you simply write sentence by sentence, the reader has a lot tougher time determining how they all fit together.
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Truly groundbreaking stuff!
Maybe you should write a book on these so-called "paragraph" things. Nobel prize for sure!
Also, I hear there are these things known as "emoticons". Maybe you could delve into those for us. They look like this... |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
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Bloody hell, that was ages ago I asked that. For all I know, you could have gone and got a haircut since then. Unfair.
Anyway, paragraphs are important. They each focus on one main point, allowing the reader to easily skim the opening line of each to determine the logic of the argument. If you simply write sentence by sentence, the reader has a lot tougher time determining how they all fit together.
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Truly groundbreaking stuff!
Maybe you should write a book on these so-called "paragraph" things. Nobel prize for sure!
Also, I hear there are these things known as "emoticons". Maybe you could delve into those for us. They look like this... |
If I wrote a book on paragraphs, would you read it, learn from it, embrace it? |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Bloody hell, that was ages ago I asked that. For all I know, you could have gone and got a haircut since then. Unfair.
Anyway, paragraphs are important. They each focus on one main point, allowing the reader to easily skim the opening line of each to determine the logic of the argument. If you simply write sentence by sentence, the reader has a lot tougher time determining how they all fit together.
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Truly groundbreaking stuff!
Maybe you should write a book on these so-called "paragraph" things. Nobel prize for sure!
Also, I hear there are these things known as "emoticons". Maybe you could delve into those for us. They look like this... |
If I wrote a book on paragraphs, would you read it, learn from it, embrace it? |
Please do write a book so that you can at least leverage it somehow towards getting someone to sleep with you. If you finish it, I'll even sign it for you so you'll have a better chance of success.
Look, it's been fun, but let's just be clear about what happened. You came on here butt-hurt that Koreans weren't faring well against the Japanese in terms of how some on here perceive the differences between them, then wrote some whiny screeds against those you didn't agree with. You couldn't intelligently counter any of the arguments or criticism, so had nothing left but to add some nonsense about not using paragraphs in a post, then keep harping on it. Nice. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
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Bloody hell, that was ages ago I asked that. For all I know, you could have gone and got a haircut since then. Unfair.
Anyway, paragraphs are important. They each focus on one main point, allowing the reader to easily skim the opening line of each to determine the logic of the argument. If you simply write sentence by sentence, the reader has a lot tougher time determining how they all fit together.
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Truly groundbreaking stuff!
Maybe you should write a book on these so-called "paragraph" things. Nobel prize for sure!
Also, I hear there are these things known as "emoticons". Maybe you could delve into those for us. They look like this... |
If I wrote a book on paragraphs, would you read it, learn from it, embrace it? |
Please do write a book so that you can at least leverage it somehow towards getting someone to sleep with you. If you finish it, I'll even sign it for you so you'll have a better chance of success.
Look, it's been fun, but let's just be clear about what happened. You came on here butt-hurt that Koreans weren't faring well against the Japanese in terms of how some on here perceive the differences between them, then wrote some whiny screeds against those you didn't agree with. You couldn't intelligently counter any of the arguments or criticism, so had nothing left but to add some nonsense about not using paragraphs in a post, then keep harping on it. Nice. |
That's a very interesting theory. You put a lot of thought into that. It's nice to know someone out there spends a bit of their time trying to work out my motivations. Makes me feel all warm inside.
I wonder though, about the butt-hurt. Could you describe the feeling for me? Is it like a pleasurable pain, or an ouchy-pain? I assume you've had the experience, given the fervor you leap into inconsequential discussions. Do you need to take medicine for it? |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
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Bloody hell, that was ages ago I asked that. For all I know, you could have gone and got a haircut since then. Unfair.
Anyway, paragraphs are important. They each focus on one main point, allowing the reader to easily skim the opening line of each to determine the logic of the argument. If you simply write sentence by sentence, the reader has a lot tougher time determining how they all fit together.
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Truly groundbreaking stuff!
Maybe you should write a book on these so-called "paragraph" things. Nobel prize for sure!
Also, I hear there are these things known as "emoticons". Maybe you could delve into those for us. They look like this... |
If I wrote a book on paragraphs, would you read it, learn from it, embrace it? |
Please do write a book so that you can at least leverage it somehow towards getting someone to sleep with you. If you finish it, I'll even sign it for you so you'll have a better chance of success.
Look, it's been fun, but let's just be clear about what happened. You came on here butt-hurt that Koreans weren't faring well against the Japanese in terms of how some on here perceive the differences between them, then wrote some whiny screeds against those you didn't agree with. You couldn't intelligently counter any of the arguments or criticism, so had nothing left but to add some nonsense about not using paragraphs in a post, then keep harping on it. Nice. |
That's a very interesting theory. You put a lot of thought into that. It's nice to know someone out there spends a bit of their time trying to work out my motivations. Makes me feel all warm inside.
I wonder though, about the butt-hurt. Could you describe the feeling for me? Is it like a pleasurable pain, or an ouchy-pain? I assume you've had the experience, given the fervor you leap into inconsequential discussions. Do you need to take medicine for it? |
I'm assuming this is an attempt at wit. Look, this is so done. You've already lost the argument and the cut-down battle and you do know that others are reading this, and the more you post, the more you look like an idiot. But hey, some people need the attention I guess.
Anyway, let the record show that this clown Transmogrifier would now like to discuss things going into his ass. Anyone want to give him some advice about it? |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I'm assuming this is an attempt at wit. Look, this is so done. You've already lost the argument and the cut-down battle and you do know that others are reading this, and the more you post, the more you look like an idiot. But hey, some people need the attention I guess.
Anyway, let the record show that this clown Transmogrifier would now like to discuss things going into his ass. Anyone want to give him some advice about it? |
I'm not sure I would like to discuss it, but you're the one who bought it up. My butt was well out of the conversation until you decided to make it part of your wonderful theory. My butt is flattered, but is not really interested, alas. Not really its scene.
You'll notice that I haven't attempted to profile you at all in this thread, because I honestly don't give a shit. I did ask people to explain what they get out of coming online and repeating over and over all the things you hate about living here. You know, let you explain in your own words. No answer forthcoming, I then tried to offer some writing advice, you know, free of charge. And from the looks of it, the paragraphs are coming along nicely. The second paragraph above has its own main idea (me and my butt, which, you know, creepy but still structurally sound), and the first paragraph. if you removed the first sentence, which doesn't relate to the rest of the paragraph, it would be perfect as well. Good work. |
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