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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: motorbikes on sidewalks |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| DanseurVertical wrote: |
| Any ideas of why there is such a difference in the Seoul area? |
Selfishness. |
YUp. And lack of enforcement. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Whenever there's a scooter behind me on the sidewalk, I purposely walk slowly in front of them. This angers the driver. |
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Squire wrote: |
| I can see instances where you'd need to ride on the pavement (especially for a delivery guy), but I think it's a problem if you go any faster than walking speed. |
In the countryside, I can see good reason to drive on the sidewalk if you have a smallish scooter (many roads are high speed, and being on a scooter can be incredibly dangerous). Of course, when they are driving at max speed in areas where they can keep up with traffic... yeah f them |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| I used to live in a city where even dragging (not riding) your bicycle on sidewalks were illegal. |
What city is it that it's illegal to walk your bicycle on the sidewalk? |
I'd like to know that, too. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Last night a saw a guy do U-turn in the middle of moving traffic onto the sidewalk and into a huge crowd of people. He could barely move due to all the people but he was trying to force them out of the way. There were little kids and parents holding babies too. It would've been so much faster for him to use the street but for some idiotic reason he had drive on the sidewalk meant for pedestrians. I also thought it was ironic that it said "Safety" in big bold letters on the back of his bike. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| There were little kids and parents holding babies too. |
That's the most obnoxious aspect of motorbikes on the sidewalk. They belch out pollution, and infants in prams get the worst of it as they're closer to the level of the exhaust pipe. You'll get some obnoxious ajoshie stuck in the pedestrian traffic next to a pram (neither able to move) while his exhaust fumes continue to surround the poor kid.
There's no shortage of selfish jerks here, that's for sure. |
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mr_thehorse
Joined: 27 Aug 2013
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| Ocalmy wrote: |
Korea and Japan are different countries with very different histories that affect how they treat strangers and public space.
In my experience, most Koreans are respectful, courteous, and polite if they're dealing with people that they are somehow connected to ---that is... they went to the same university, play tennis together, cousins, family friend, bosses nephew, etc.
With strangers, there is no obligation to be courteous and respectful. Public space = stranger space, and is therefore subject to whatever kind of vomiting, spitting, motorcycle riding, push and shove, microphone blaring nonsense that random people choose to inflict upon it.
I lived in Dongdaemun for two years so maybe my perspective is skewed. Before that I lived in Songpa-gu and I found the people there to be generally more courteous. |
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