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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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try to get you banned from leaving the school at lunch.
This is what happened at my High School where I couldn't stand the lunches or company. At my middle school I ate the lunch because it was decent and the co-teachers were nice. |
My last middle school (and that school rotted in far more ways than one) in Busan. June 2012. Supervisor: "You cannot leave the school grounds without having my signature, the department head signature, the vice principal's signature, and the principal's signature. Not even during lunch. What if something were to happen to you?"
And people wonder why so many of us quit after years working in EPIK. |
It's a liability issue. If something DID happen, it could be a problem. Blame the lawyers. |
It's a control issue; public school principals are the most dickish bosses I've ever had. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| My school is pretty easy-come, easy-go, but they too make a big deal about ALL teachers signing in and signing out. I think it has something to do with workplace injury and insurance coverage or some such as it was translated to me. |
See, I see signing in and out (or swiping a card) as more to do with security purposes, than safety. Many companies or schools want to keep track of who's coming and going. If something goes wrong, they can look at who was there (or wasn't).
But as for taking a lunch outside of the company - I'd be shocked if it was actually legal for a company to restrict worker's movements. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:44 pm Post subject: ! |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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| chopstick wrote: |
try to get you banned from leaving the school at lunch.
This is what happened at my High School where I couldn't stand the lunches or company. At my middle school I ate the lunch because it was decent and the co-teachers were nice. |
My last middle school (and that school rotted in far more ways than one) in Busan. June 2012. Supervisor: "You cannot leave the school grounds without having my signature, the department head signature, the vice principal's signature, and the principal's signature. Not even during lunch. What if something were to happen to you?"
And people wonder why so many of us quit after years working in EPIK. |
It's a liability issue. If something DID happen, it could be a problem. Blame the lawyers. |
Lord, you're completely full of it (no surprise seeing who it is). When the only person required to do so is the GET, it's not a liability issue. It's a BS issue. Swiping one's access card (which neither of my EPIK schools had in the first place) is completely different from obtaining permission to leave the school during one's lunch break. |
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f12
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| am i the only one who REALLY ENJOYS school lunch (public school in daejeon if it matters)? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| The reason I dislike them is they are so unhealthy. Too much sodium and too many simple carbs (rice, noodles, sugar, etc.). Health is wealth. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| It's a control issue; public school principals are the most dickish bosses I've ever had. |
The principal sent a message to me today that from now I will expected to come to all school meetings. (The meetings are conducted entirely in Korean). Ugh. What am I going to do? Awkward. That edict makes no logical sense. But I have to comply. I have no choice. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:42 am Post subject: |
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The principal sent a message to me today that from now I will expected to come to all school meetings. (The meetings are conducted entirely in Korean). Ugh. What am I going to do? Awkward. That edict makes no logical sense. But I have to comply. I have no choice. |
I've been expected to do that for years. Typically, weekly staff meetings take about 10 or 15 minutes. They follow a routine with charge teachers outlining issues & changes for the week ahead. Theres a printed agenda too, you can practice your reading. After a few meetings you start to notice when things are out of the ordinary, so if you dont grasp whats going on, you can ask your co-teacher after. It can actually be quite useful in keeping on top of school events.
Then there was the time a PE teacher & the VP shouted at each other & almost came to physical blows. That was amusing.
Once or twice a semester I also have to sign in & sit through a school-wide half-hour seminar on school violence, sexual harassment, etc. Its not a big deal. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| It seems pretty simple OP: eat out and forgo the school lunch. Then you can eat whatever you like. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| The principal sent a message to me today that from now I will expected to come to all school meetings. (The meetings are conducted entirely in Korean). Ugh. What am I going to do? Awkward. That edict makes no logical sense. But I have to comply. I have no choice. |
So basically you want all of the privileges of Korean teachers, but none of the responsibilities.
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| Lord, you're completely full of it (no surprise seeing who it is). When the only person required to do so is the GET, it's not a liability issue. It's a BS issue. Swiping one's access card (which neither of my EPIK schools had in the first place) is completely different from obtaining permission to leave the school during one's lunch break. |
Well there are probably some schools out there where someone has it out for the NET, of course we might not be getting the full story about why they cracked down. There are also many schools out there where ALL teachers are required to notify their superiors before leaving school grounds during work hours.
Anyways, staying if leaving school grounds requires written authorization due to regulation, and we are contractually obligated to to follow regulations, then that is what you do.
You demand to stick to the contract, stick to the contract. Sign in and out and get 50 documents. The contract works both ways. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
My school is pretty easy-come, easy-go, but they too make a big deal about ALL teachers signing in and signing out. I think it has something to do with workplace injury and insurance coverage or some such as it was translated to me.
I mean, say you're walking about to Dunkin Donuts for a cup of coffee during work hours and get creamed by a scooter, you might claim workplace injury as you were "on the clock".
Or if you were given permission to go out, but there was no record, insurance might not pay out.
I'm not saying it isn't tedious, but I'm sure sometime, somewhere, something like this happened and there was a whole fiasco and now people have to be careful about it.
I'll amend it to blame the lawyers/bureaucrats/politicians/etc. |
You mean the foriegner actually gets covered if he's injured on the job in the work | |
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