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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Not surprised that it doesn't make sense to you, either. "Maybe it's my fault" is always a hard question to ask. Not only that, since judgement against you will cost you your sense of superiority, you're not going to do that without a struggle, are you?
Another example of smell in context of bullying: ever notice that when somebody breaks wind, pass gas, etc in a crowded room, it's always some minority that gets accused first? A classic excuse: "I can tell it was you because I know the smell of Asian farts." Why don't you tell me that that makes perfect sense.  |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Why did the Japanese call Korea **** land? |
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| Julius wrote: |
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| Why did the Japanese give that nickname when they invaded? |
Before the japanese occupation, Koreans used to defecate anywhere. On the road, sidewalk, wherever.
This manure was collected by people on carts, in the same way folks pick up cardboard and trash today. After shovelling it up, they sold it to farmers who used it to fertilize their fields.
This is well attested to in the various old accounts of Korea dating back to 1895 or so.
There is loads of stuff they did that today we'd consider uncivilised but the fact is most cultures were disgustingly filthy if you go back far enough. |
That's right. The Japanese would **** this way also in the rural areas. In fact, the Japanese referred to it as "night soil", which was also used to put in the fields to mix with the soil to grow vegetables.
One reason why they have been so fussy about the removal of one's shoes before entering any home and other buildings. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Smell is realpolitik. You are choosing to say: this smell is bad because I'm better than this, instead of: I can't get used to this smell, there must be something wrong with me. This is you protesting "It's not my fault! It's Korea that smells." Once again, taste (sense) is all in your mind. |
Someone will have to go a long way to make less logical sense than this. |
I was wrong.
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Not surprised that it doesn't make sense to you, either. "Maybe it's my fault" is always a hard question to ask. Not only that, since judgement against you will cost you your sense of superiority, you're not going to do that without a struggle, are you?
Another example of smell in context of bullying: ever notice that when somebody breaks wind, pass gas, etc in a crowded room, it's always some minority that gets accused first? A classic excuse: "I can tell it was you because I know the smell of Asian farts." Why don't you tell me that that makes perfect sense. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Another example of smell in context of bullying: ever notice that when somebody breaks wind, pass gas, etc in a crowded room, it's always some minority that gets accused first? A classic excuse: "I can tell it was you because I know the smell of Asian farts." Why don't you tell me that that makes perfect sense. |
Oh yeah! That's so funny! Why do people always do that? Ha ha!......Wait. No. No, actually I have never 'noticed' that, because I have never seen that happen. Nice try making out like that is a thing, though. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| Another example of smell in context of bullying: ever notice that when somebody breaks wind, pass gas, etc in a crowded room, it's always some minority that gets accused first? A classic excuse: "I can tell it was you because I know the smell of Asian farts." Why don't you tell me that that makes perfect sense. |
Oh yeah! That's so funny! Why do people always do that? Ha ha!......Wait. No. No, actually I have never 'noticed' that, because I have never seen that happen. Nice try making out like that is a thing, though. |
For real. That has to be one of the dumbest things I've read in awhile. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I know a twit who calls this place "kimchiland''. Makes you wonder why the hell he married a Korean (well, I kind of know why he married her: she's a doormat). |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I know a twit who calls this place "kimchiland''. Makes you wonder why the hell he married a Korean (well, I kind of know why he married her: she's a doormat). |
That isn't such a bad name. Korean people are very proud of their kimchi, after all. A quick Google search reveals there is even a Korean restaurant in Berlin that goes by that name. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: Re: Why did the Japanese call Korea **** land? |
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| I'm With You wrote: |
The Japanese would **** this way also in the rural areas. In fact, the Japanese referred to it as "night soil", which was also used to put in the fields to mix with the soil to grow vegetables.
One reason why they have been so fussy about the removal of one's shoes before entering any home and other buildings. |
I never could figure out why older koreans go disproportionately berserk at the sight of someone keeping their shoes on. Now it makes sense.
Leaving public refuse collection to private individuals is also a hangover from a historic lack of organized government. Wonder why the Japanese didn't reform this. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| I know a twit who calls this place "kimchiland''. Makes you wonder why the hell he married a Korean (well, I kind of know why he married her: she's a doormat). |
That isn't such a bad name. Korean people are very proud of their kimchi, after all. A quick Google search reveals there is even a Korean restaurant in Berlin that goes by that name. |
That's just one example of his disdain for Korea and Koreans, and he means it as a derogatory term, not as a quirky name for the place. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
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Smell is realpolitik. You are choosing to say: this smell is bad because I'm better than this, instead of: I can't get used to this smell, there must be something wrong with me. This is you protesting "It's not my fault! It's Korea that smells." Once again, taste (sense) is all in your mind. |
Someone will have to go a long way to make less logical sense than this.
It is a fact that Korean urban areas smell far, far worse than the urban areas of my home country (coming from a dairy farm background however, I'm not going to make the same claim for rural areas). It's hardly racism to point this out. Also, my wife has lived in Korea her whole life, and she still hasn't gotten used to the smells. What chance I?
And anyway, there is a reason why we classify some smells as bad; it's so we avoid the source of the smell and don't get sick. |
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Not to mention, we are talking about human feces. It's a bad smell and 99.9999999999999% of humanity would agree and not be ashamed to admit it. Apparently Andrew disagrees though. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Yes, that'll be a putdown, too.
It's like you, Mix1, didn't pay attention during bullying prevention classes. This is how bullying starts. You start with smell (or something else to be embarrassed about) and then shut them up whenever there's an argument by saying something about the smell... Next step: Asians are permanent biatches. Still doesn't ring a bell? or are you just in denial: "I think I'm a nice guy so it's impossible that I'd been bullying."
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Bizarre set of tangents you have constructed. The smell we are starting with here is the smell of feces; a smell universally known to be bad to just about everyone. If a place smelled like feces, of course people would be displeased and would not need to justify themselves about it in any way.
Now again: So, does it work the other way too? If a Korean visits Canada and doesn't like some of the smells he encounters, is he a racist too? Or is it a one way street like usual? |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I've already answered that. I've said, "yes, that will be a putdown, too".
Anyway, this has turned out to be like a Republican Townhall debate. I'm talking about bullying, and you are talking about hygiene. As long as I don't say anything about hygiene, then I don't make any logical sense, as far as you are concerned. Which reinforces my point: were you paying attention during anti-bullying seminars? Or do they just pretend bullying is 'all in your mind'?
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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It seems like you must have had a hard time in school, Andrewchon. I've never heard people blame flatulence on minorities and I didn't realize that Asians are "permanent biatches".
I used to have a lot of friends of Pakistan and Indian heritage when I was younger and they were nobodies "biatches". That doesn't mean that you weren't blamed for flatulence and treated like a "biatch" though. But perhaps the bullying you suffered has left you hypersensitive to any comments you perceive as negative towards your culture. |
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Janny
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Not surprised that it doesn't make sense to you, either. "Maybe it's my fault" is always a hard question to ask. Not only that, since judgement against you will cost you your sense of superiority, you're not going to do that without a struggle, are you?
Another example of smell in context of bullying: ever notice that when somebody breaks wind, pass gas, etc in a crowded room, it's always some minority that gets accused first? A classic excuse: "I can tell it was you because I know the smell of Asian farts." Why don't you tell me that that makes perfect sense. Laughing |
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've already answered that. I've said, "yes, that will be a putdown, too".
Anyway, this has turned out to be like a Republican Townhall debate. I'm talking about bullying, and you are talking about hygiene. As long as I don't say anything about hygiene, then I don't make any logical sense, as far as you are concerned. Which reinforces my point: were you paying attention during anti-bullying seminars? Or do they just pretend bullying is 'all in your mind'? |
Wow! Looks like someone accidentally dropped acid today!
I so wish Koreans would post more often. Idiots, too, are so very welcome. It's my cruel sense of comedy I guess. It really keeps me coming back for more here on Dave's.
Incidentally, I'm in Shanghai now. It's awesome, as predicted. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Janny wrote: |
Wow! Looks like someone accidentally dropped acid today!
I so wish Koreans would post more often. Idiots, too, are so very welcome. It's my cruel sense of comedy I guess. It really keeps me coming back for more here on Dave's.
Incidentally, I'm in Shanghai now. It's awesome, as predicted. |
Welcome to Shanghai. I'm sure you won't be disappointed here. |
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