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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled  Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university? 
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| drcrazy wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
You hit the mother lode!
And to think that idiot would have you believe that a satellite campus is inferior in any way to a main one. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
You hit the mother lode!
And to think that idiot would have you believe that a satellite campus is inferior in any way to a main one. |
For a point of discussion, did you read the post by someone on here who was doing a distance degree whilst living in Korea who didn't want to buy books 'he was only going to use once or twice' but couldn't find the books in the public libraries around Seoul and district? If he was actually on site, he would have access to all the books on the modules he was doing at the campus library.
I think that distance/online education is a great idea spoiled by money grabbing educators. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
You hit the mother lode!
And to think that idiot would have you believe that a satellite campus is inferior in any way to a main one. |
For a point of discussion, did you read the post by someone on here who was doing a distance degree whilst living in Korea who didn't want to buy books 'he was only going to use once or twice' but couldn't find the books in the public libraries around Seoul and district? If he was actually on site, he would have access to all the books on the modules he was doing at the campus library.
I think that distance/online education is a great idea spoiled by money grabbing educators. |
Odds are the books would have been borrowed. That's what I experienced whenever I went to the library to consult a book that was required reading.
No, his problem was that he didn't want to spend any money.
Really, what's a couple of hundred bucks on books? Besides, in order to conduct research you need to spend money.
His problem was a matter of priorities, not facilities. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
You hit the mother lode!
And to think that idiot would have you believe that a satellite campus is inferior in any way to a main one. |
For a point of discussion, did you read the post by someone on here who was doing a distance degree whilst living in Korea who didn't want to buy books 'he was only going to use once or twice' but couldn't find the books in the public libraries around Seoul and district? If he was actually on site, he would have access to all the books on the modules he was doing at the campus library.
I think that distance/online education is a great idea spoiled by money grabbing educators. |
Odds are the books would have been borrowed. That's what I experienced whenever I went to the library to consult a book that was required reading.
No, his problem was that he didn't want to spend any money.
Really, what's a couple of hundred bucks on books? Besides, in order to conduct research you need to spend money.
His problem was a matter of priorities, not facilities. |
totally agree by the way, I think a lot of people partake in the online/distance learning experience thinking it will be more cost and time effective even though you need to be more organized and self sufficient in other ways, here is the thread in question.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2887934&highlight=#2887934 |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
You hit the mother lode!
And to think that idiot would have you believe that a satellite campus is inferior in any way to a main one. |
For a point of discussion, did you read the post by someone on here who was doing a distance degree whilst living in Korea who didn't want to buy books 'he was only going to use once or twice' but couldn't find the books in the public libraries around Seoul and district? If he was actually on site, he would have access to all the books on the modules he was doing at the campus library.
I think that distance/online education is a great idea spoiled by money grabbing educators. |
Odds are the books would have been borrowed. That's what I experienced whenever I went to the library to consult a book that was required reading.
No, his problem was that he didn't want to spend any money.
Really, what's a couple of hundred bucks on books? Besides, in order to conduct research you need to spend money.
His problem was a matter of priorities, not facilities. |
totally agree by the way, I think a lot of people partake in the online/distance learning experience thinking it will be more cost and time effective even though you need to be more organized and self sufficient in other ways, here is the thread in question.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2887934&highlight=#2887934 |
No time for Amazon?  I order books from The Book Depository. The longest I've ever waited for a book was 2 weeks, and that was with free delivery. |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
I encourage you to test this in countries like Korea, Japan, Taiwan, UAE, Qatar, etc., as long as you have US $15,000 - $25,000 to experiment with.
Then update us on the results.
But do you have that kind of money to throw down the toilet? |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I did mine onsite in Korea, it was neither online or distance. |
Yes, your degree is considered a distance education degree.
Any satellite campus, like Framingham University, is considered distance education. |
I don't see how? We attended the same amount of class hours. Had just as much homework as a brick and mortar university.
There are plenty of sattelite campuses in the US? Are those distant too?
What about Koreans who atttend there first 2 years in a sattelite campus and then complet the next two years in the Seoul campus?
Not arguing, just discussing. |
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A satellite campus or branch campus is a campus of a college or university that is physically detached from the main university or college area, located in a different city, state, or country, and is often smaller than the main campus of an institution.............
Well, I read the entire entry and it says nothing about what they are made of. However, I do not think a university has to be made of brick and mortar to qualify as a real university. Many newer buildings do not use those anyway. I am in my office now. After I post this I will go outside and see what our buildings are made of. I have never really paid attention to that. We, however, are a real university, and it will be interesting to see what we are made of. Will update this later. |
Well I will be hornswaggled Our buildings are made of brick and mortar. |
Question is, is it a red brick university?
Apparently, the cement brick ones are not as good. They certainly aren't as aesthetically appealing. And you know...appearance is everything. |
Yes, PTL!!!!!!! It is red brick. The sidwalks too. |
You hit the mother lode!
And to think that idiot would have you believe that a satellite campus is inferior in any way to a main one. |
For a point of discussion, did you read the post by someone on here who was doing a distance degree whilst living in Korea who didn't want to buy books 'he was only going to use once or twice' but couldn't find the books in the public libraries around Seoul and district? If he was actually on site, he would have access to all the books on the modules he was doing at the campus library.
I think that distance/online education is a great idea spoiled by money grabbing educators. |
Odds are the books would have been borrowed. That's what I experienced whenever I went to the library to consult a book that was required reading.
No, his problem was that he didn't want to spend any money.
Really, what's a couple of hundred bucks on books? Besides, in order to conduct research you need to spend money.
His problem was a matter of priorities, not facilities. |
totally agree by the way, I think a lot of people partake in the online/distance learning experience thinking it will be more cost and time effective even though you need to be more organized and self sufficient in other ways, here is the thread in question.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2887934&highlight=#2887934 |
No time for Amazon? I order books from The Book Depository. The longest I've ever waited for a book was 2 weeks, and that was with free delivery. |
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neilio
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Finally caught up! This post snagged my attention somehow and I got roped into reading the whole thread. 3 hours later here I am.
For universities that offer both a distance and on-site program, they are both designed to achieve a similar level of expertise in that area. Both have advantage and disadvantages. Whether that desired level is achieved is tough to measure.
I could make a strong argument that learning distance learning dragged out over 3 years may lead to greater reflection and application in one's everyday teaching life. On the other hand if the only measure of knowledge acquisition is the completion of online written work then this may be easily forged.
With respect to TESOL, it's clear the discipline is moving towards having an E-classroom. KTM. (The Korean Tablet Movement) Having an education acquired online may be an advantage to teach a language that will be learned online. Not to say that one leads to the other but there are many communication skills developed through distance learning that simply aren't via on-site. The online nature of it is a slowly blooming advantage that will surely become at least part of all TESOL degrees.
I think the main fear by institutions is the forgery aspect of distance-learning. This is legitimate. I can also give good ol Richard Smartiepants a few hundo$ to do my homework on-site too. |
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dg7104
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In the field of education, THE COST outweighs the benefits. You waste 4 years on a bachelors, and what do you get? Low pay. You waste 2 more years on a masters, and what do you get? Slightly more than low pay. A PhD is only good for your home country, and only if you are a tenured professor.
Face it. No one gets rich teaching, so you have to decide how much it is worth it to you to get higher degrees.
I know plenty of people who have gone through the arduous task of getting their masters, countless hours of reading and writing, and have to dig themselves out of a pretty large amount of debt, for low pay and teaching: I am, you are, he/she/it is.......--you really need a masters for that? |
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robbie_davies
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In the field of education, THE COST outweighs the benefits. You waste 4 years on a bachelors, and what do you get? Low pay. You waste 2 more years on a masters, and what do you get? Slightly more than low pay. A PhD is only good for your home country, and only if you are a tenured professor.
Face it. No one gets rich teaching, so you have to decide how much it is worth it to you to get higher degrees.
I know plenty of people who have gone through the arduous task of getting their masters, countless hours of reading and writing, and have to dig themselves out of a pretty large amount of debt, for low pay and teaching: I am, you are, he/she/it is.......--you really need a masters for that? |
Better than having no degree, trust me. |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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My life improved immeasurably after getting a masters. However, I'm of a different era of TEFL'er. Back when I earned an on campus master's, positions at Korean university unigwons and faculty jobs were plentiful. It was also before the online and distance master's degree craze hit EFL teachers in Korea.
Now every Canadian and his dog has an online master's degree here.
I talked to one Canadian one night in the pub in Seoul who drunkenly boasted that he didn't even write one of his papers for his master's degree. He hired it all out. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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My life improved immeasurably after getting a masters. However, I'm of a different era of TEFL'er. Back when I earned an on campus master's, positions at Korean university unigwons and faculty jobs were plentiful. It was also before the online and distance master's degree craze hit EFL teachers in Korea.
Now every Canadian and his dog has an online master's degree here.
I talked to one Canadian one night in the pub in Seoul who drunkenly boasted that he didn't even write one of his papers for his master's degree. He hired it all out. |
I've met plenty who took theirs on campus and hired a lot of their stuff out. |
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