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mck17



Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:48 am    Post subject: moving on after Korea Reply with quote

hi,

So my partner and I are half way through our Korean school contract and have been asked to resign a new contract.

However we are thinking of trying a new country before moving back to Australia.

Anyone have any advice on other esl countries?
We have both lived in Thailand teaching but want somewhere we can save some money as well as we will be buying a house once back in Australia.

We would love to go to the UAE however we are not married and I have heard it would not be possible.

Any experience or advice would be appreciated !!!
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why not get married? (disregard q if you are a same-sex couple)
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mck17



Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't fancy getting married just for the sake of a job... Would be much easier just to try a different country!Smile
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Korea for 8 years. I went back to Canada for a couple years and was consistently under-employed (I'm a certified teacher). Went back into debt.

I'm in Shanghai now. It was a risk, since I wasn't all that happy in Korea. But I can report with 100% stones that it is NOT like Korea at all.

I am respected at work and left alone on the streets. Treated fairly day-to-day in all situations. In my little neighborhood, I'm surrounded by happy families and a sense of community that I've never before experienced. Just walking home with some groceries after a full, satisfying day at school is a pleasure.

Honestly. Try China.
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mck17



Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thanks!!!

Yes after living in Thailand I don't feel as welcome in Korea... We both want something exactly as you described.
Only thing take put us of China was the low wages and I've heard there are a lot of scam jobs?
If you don't mind me asking... How did you get your job? Is it public or private?
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure.

I fell into my job quite by chance, as my close friend was leaving the position and I was able to fill it before they even started looking. It's a private institute, similar to a Korean hagwan (offering after-school lessons and heavy on the weekends. I have Mon and Tuesdays off).

I did also get some hits using Dave's Job Search site, here.

The quoted salaries are lower than Korea. But the trade-offs are justifiable, as I mentioned in the previous post. Korean jobs offer flight, higher salary and housing for a reason: it sucks to live there!

I have a monthly stipend which covers my rent, and I am clearing 2400 Canadian dollars / month. I anticipate a healthy raise next year. My only expenses are house utilities, food and other day to day costs like transit. My flight was not paid for upfront, but I managed to talk them into it. I'm paying the school back next paycheque for that. I get the round-trip flight reimbursed after completion of one year.

If you're offering good credentials and a great Skype interview (looks count, and energy: this point being similar to Korea as well...a business needs to SELL classes and the expat teacher is selling point #1) then you can negotiate anything.

I've been told that the Korea-like frustrations (giggling, sophomoric ego posturing, lack of courtesy, staring, unnecessary ambient noise) can be found in smaller cities of China. But here in Shanghai...life is good.
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mck17



Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow sounds great!!!any jobs going for next year haha!!

Thanks. For your advice.... Every time I have asked someone about China its a friend of a friend that they knew once back.... Good to get first hand feedback!!! Smile
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Give it a shot. China's booming for English teachers.

Downsides: POLLUTION! It's bad. And prices for everything in Shanghai is only slightly lower than Canada, which is not saying much (everything is high in Canada). The shopping is fantastic. Yes, that's a downside Wink
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I lived in Shanghai. Crying or Very sad
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mck17



Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Janny"]Very Happy Give it a shot. China's booming for English teachers.

Downsides: POLLUTION! It's bad. And prices for everything in Shanghai is only slightly lower than Canada, which is not saying much (everything is high in Canada). The shopping is fantastic. Yes, that's a downside Wink[/quote]

SOLD!!! Very Happy Laughing
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the China or other country forums. Sign up if you need to (China has a hidden off-topic forum you need to be signed in for).
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janny wrote:
I am respected at work and left alone on the streets. Treated fairly day-to-day in all situations. In my little neighborhood, I'm surrounded by happy families and a sense of community that I've never before experienced. Just walking home with some groceries after a full, satisfying day at school is a pleasure.


Though I don't know you personally, I am happy for you (and just a wee bit jealous!). BUT you're clearly in the honeymoon phase. May it never wear off. Very Happy
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wes1989



Joined: 07 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janny wrote:
I was in Korea for 8 years. I went back to Canada for a couple years and was consistently under-employed (I'm a certified teacher). Went back into debt.


WTF? What do you mean underemployed? You mean after 8 years of experience you couldn't land a full time teaching gig in Canada? I know it is difficult for newbies fresh out of University but seriously wtf?
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davai!



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could try Saudi Arabia. you can figure out ways to be together there. esp. if they put you in hotels
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Gravity Wins



Joined: 22 Jul 2013
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janny wrote:
Korean jobs offer flight, higher salary and housing for a reason: it sucks to live there!


Correction: Your experience living there sucked.

You know, I was speaking to a Korean the other day whose sister had studied in Canada. She said her sister hated it there. She found the country boring and the people were cold. Maybe she was living in Toronto? More likely though, wherever she was staying turned into a boring, cold place because she had a boring, cold attitude about things.

I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. But I'm having a damned good time. And if I can no longer say that about Korea at the end of the year, I'll take off for some place else, or I'll go home. I won't spend a decade here by choice and then lament it like some sort of awful prison sentence on Dave's.

Sure, I'm in my honey-moon phase. But too many of you are stuck in your 30-years married to a women you can't stand the sight of phase. And it's off-putting not only to new members of this forum, but to people who prefer enjoying their life.

It sucks living in Korea? In this case, a second-grader's logic actually applies. It's more likely that *you* sucked while living in Korea.
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