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Kimchieluver
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| I think a big factor that goes into the rankings of universities is how many of their graduates obtain decent jobs. As far as Korea is concerned, if you graduated from SNU you have a big advantage over those who graduated from other universities. That and international professors and international students. |
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Swampfox10mm
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I think a big factor that goes into the rankings of universities is how many of their graduates obtain decent jobs. As far as Korea is concerned, if you graduated from SNU you have a big advantage over those who graduated from other universities. That and international professors and international students. |
This is the parroted perception, but it is not entirely true.
As she is in management, my wife was trained by Lotte to hire for a former job. Having a SKY school on your resume looks good, but those people are in competition with others who have studied overseas at higher-ranked schools with world-wide reputations for excellence.
If you want a job with Lotte, there is a great deal more involved in the interview process than, "Oh, you went to a SKY school... here's a job." For example, pre-final candidates are given the task of preparing a presentation, in just a few minutes, based on a company-related topic chosen by the hiring team. They are allowed to hand-draw cards to use as visual aides during their presentation, but the rest is entirely pulled out of their butts. They are expected to organize a well-planned presentation, and give it in front of the hiring group and other candidates, all with about 10 to 15 mins of prep.
My wife assured me that dozens of SKY and top overseas school grads fall completely on their backsides or totally clam-up and implode.
Another part of the interview process involves an intensive Q&A session about their background (for example.... picking apart every minute detail in their history) to root-out the liars (of which there are a huge number).
Just because you graduate from a SKY school doesn't mean much to chaebols these days, although family connections and rich buddies do grease the works. Students must be able to perform, not just be good at studying books. |
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Ginormousaurus
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| ^I would assume that having a SKY degree would at least give you an advantage in getting an interview in the first place. I wonder what percentage of candidates for positions like you have described have a degree from a Korean uni that is not SKY? |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I know of 3 former students who went to 'less than stellar' small town universities that have manged to snag jobs at Kookmin Bank, Samsung and Posco. I was very impressed.
But I'm sure having a SKY degree makes it easier getting that coveted interview. However, once you're up to bat, you'd better get on base. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| ^I would assume that having a SKY degree would at least give you an advantage in getting an interview in the first place. I wonder what percentage of candidates for positions like you have described have a degree from a Korean uni that is not SKY? |
Think about what I wrote. If you want an exact percentage, you're going to have to contact the Chaebols. My wife, for one. She graduated from a university for women in Busan. Her big break into her current industry was that she spoke Japanese, and she interviewed well.
Interestingly, a lot of young grads are looking at other options besides places like Samsung, for example. Reason: They don't want to be worked to death and have no family life. Sure, many would jump at the job, given the chance, but a trend is starting toward favoring having a life other than work. |
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Ginormousaurus
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| ^I would assume that having a SKY degree would at least give you an advantage in getting an interview in the first place. I wonder what percentage of candidates for positions like you have described have a degree from a Korean uni that is not SKY? |
Think about what I wrote. If you want an exact percentage, you're going to have to contact the Chaebols. |
It was more of a rhetorical question. I didn't expect you or anyone to actually have an exact percentage. |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Don't kid yourselves, Koreans still care big time about the name of the school one graduates from. Japanese do, also. Graduating from Korea University or Tokyo University will determine the kind of company you work for, how much you'll earn - even the kind of woman you marry! That's why those graduating from these top schools never really had to learn anything during their 4 years there, teh companies would teach them everything the needed to know. Now it's changing, but it still is the big determiner where you fit in in society.
The same goes for foreign EFL teachers here. I know guys who didn't study TESOL but something unrelated yet they were still hired by the big name schools here because they graduated from Ivy League schools in the U.S. |
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