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Americans, you might want to read this new bank/tax info
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicwr2002 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02n1wBwrSOo

According to this website the threshold for filing is 200,000 for single filers and 400,000 for married couples. I don't think that many people in the ESL industry have that much in assets.


It could affect some of us. We own our house, and I file single. That is how the IRS instructed how to file, despite my being married to a Korean.
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
nicwr2002 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02n1wBwrSOo

According to this website the threshold for filing is 200,000 for single filers and 400,000 for married couples. I don't think that many people in the ESL industry have that much in assets.


It could affect some of us. We own our house, and I file single. That is how the IRS instructed how to file, despite my being married to a Korean.


Wow, they won't even give us the benefits of being married either???
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about this last night and was wondering about something.

In the US, we use our Social Security numbers for reporting income. Korean banks never ask for our SS number. So how in the world will they know we're American?
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
I was thinking about this last night and was wondering about something.

In the US, we use our Social Security numbers for reporting income. Korean banks never ask for our SS number. So how in the world will they know we're American?


very easy, your arc has your nationality on it, if they don't notice there when they run your arc # it will pop.

not that hard
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! What happened to America? I use to really admire her free enterprise and adventurious spirit. Now, it has become a Communist country. Man! That's sucks for you guys. I can see folks renouncing their citizenship. What a colossal pain in the @$$ that must be. Sure glad Canada's not like that. I filed my taxes first year here and told them I'm not a resident of Canada anymore. They said "Ok, cool." That was pretty straight and cut. Pretty easy. You 'muricans got to recover your freedom. (To think, I almost immigrated there. That old 3 point something unemployment rate looked so good to me back in the day. Glad, I came here instead.)
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Wow! What happened to America? I use to really admire her free enterprise and adventurious spirit. Now, it has become a Communist country. Man! That's sucks for you guys. I can see folks renouncing their citizenship. What a colossal pain in the @$$ that must be. Sure glad Canada's not like that. I filed my taxes first year here and told them I'm not a resident of Canada anymore. They said "Ok, cool." That was pretty straight and cut. Pretty easy. You 'muricans got to recover your freedom. (To think, I almost immigrated there. That old 3 point something unemployment rate looked so good to me back in the day. Glad, I came here instead.)


You're correct, Weigookin74. It's happening already.

Americans renouncing U.S. citizenship surged sixfold in the second quarter from a year earlier as the government prepares to introduce tougher asset-disclosure rules.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edwardo whatever his last name is of Facebook fame did just that and moved to Singapore where there aren't any withholding taxes on capital gains. It was going to cost him millions of dollars in taxes just to hold on to his US passport.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just great! Time to start looking at various possibilities such as moving my Korean savings to China or elsewhere.

And honestly, this does make me want to change citizenships.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7 wrote:
Yet another attempt to expand the territorial application of American law?

Rolling Eyes

With that said...

I strongly doubt that Korean banks will turn you away. But, if I were American I'd move my liquid assets to a local credit union. They most probably don't have any US-sourced income to be taxed for non-compliance.


And it's the fault of the American voters for electing knuckleheads that allow things like this to happen.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know an American who gave up his citizenship because he knew this was coming. He said American citizenship comes with all the responsibilities and no benefits.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
12ax7 wrote:
Yet another attempt to expand the territorial application of American law?

Rolling Eyes

With that said...

I strongly doubt that Korean banks will turn you away. But, if I were American I'd move my liquid assets to a local credit union. They most probably don't have any US-sourced income to be taxed for non-compliance.


And it's the fault of the American voters for electing knuckleheads that allow things like this to happen.


1984. America is becoming increasingly Orwellian. American voters never were in control. An election is just a ruse to make us think that we are. But we're not and never have been. And it's about to get a whole lot worse.
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bmaw01



Joined: 13 May 2013

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to listen to some Rage Against the Machine to release my anger when I read the article! Evil or Very Mad

I love talking to young American expats. They are so optimistic. They can't wait to go home so they can make good money and start a life. I guess when you get older you start to see what the government really is. Your viewpoint turns from optimism to cynicism.

I am going to tell it like it is. You guys are screwed! I would not want to be a young American worker. We are trillions in debt. Obama care is around the corner which will mean more taxes. The rich are getting wealthier.

I guarantee that the government is going to take 30% of your income in the near future or maybe even more.

This new law stinks. Everyday people are going to be dragged into this mess. It's bad.
Sad
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
I know an American who gave up his citizenship because he knew this was coming. He said American citizenship comes with all the responsibilities and no benefits.


There are lots of us who decided that a US passport was more grief than it was worth and tossed it.

It is only the bright eyed, fully indoctrinated wonders that still think otherwise (shades of 1969).

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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it wasn't for all of my family being in the States, I'd consider dumping my US citizenship. I have several options for places outside the States to take up residence, but going "home" to visit would be a problem from those countries. I guess I just have to hope for the best.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment, I live in China and am greatly enjoying my life on both professional and personal terms. However, for a number of different obvious reasons, taking up Chinese citizenship would not exactly be viable and might not even be possible.

I suppose if I were to consider other countries to settle down and obtain citizenship, Australia and Singapore both seem like very viable possibilities for me to consider in the future.
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