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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| atwood wrote: |
Unfortunately for your friend, I believe TUM is for once, proving the old adage about blind pigs, right. I've heard it from many sources that you can't let it sit there for more than five years after you quit working in Korea.
I agree it doesn't make sense, but that seems to be the SOP. |
Were that the case, it does make one wonder why the U.S. Social Security Administration and the U.S. Embassy are investigating the disappearance of the pension contributions, as is the Korean National Pension Service?
I think what may apply to regular pension regulations may or may not be the case when it comes to a reciprocal agreement existing between nations. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:38 am Post subject: |
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This thread is about missing pension contributions. If you believe it to be one to attack Mods, you will quickly join two former members who had similar agendas.
Members observing such inappropriate behavior are requested to advise the Mod Team by Report Post or PM as soon as possible. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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The latest is that 9 months of pension contributions have now been identified and credited by KNPS. This leaves 4 years and 3 months of employment that potentially have not been credited.
The KNPS has referred the former Visiting Professor to Korea University to explain the missing time and contributions, as “Your previous employer should report your employment and they should pay your contribution.”
The response of the university is eagerly anticipated. |
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Wildbore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Kalgukshi wrote: |
The latest is that 9 months of pension contributions have now been identified and credited by KNPS. This leaves 4 years and 3 months of employment that potentially have not been credited.
The KNPS has referred the former Visiting Professor to Korea University to explain the missing time and contributions, as “Your previous employer should report your employment and they should pay your contribution.”
The response of the university is eagerly anticipated. |
The pension office in Ulsan tried to do this to me when my employer underreported and pocketed a part of my contribution. "Go talk to your employer... get him to change the report."
After the "employer" fails to act, ignores the problem.... the pension office 'should' do enforcement of its own laws. If they do there won't be a problem and he'll get his contributions. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Korea University responded to say that pension contributions were not commenced until 2000 even though the former Visiting Professor had begun working at the university in 1995.
Unfortunately, this is not in compliance with what is found on the NPS website:
http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/scheme/scheme_04.jsp
"From August 1995, foreigners working at a workplace with 5 or more full-time employees were included in the mandatory coverage." |
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Wildbore
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Kalgukshi wrote: |
Korea University responded to say that pension contributions were not commenced until 2000 even though the former Visiting Professor had begun working at the university in 1995.
Unfortunately, this is not in compliance with what is found on the NPS website:
http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/scheme/scheme_04.jsp
"From August 1995, foreigners working at a workplace with 5 or more full-time employees were included in the mandatory coverage." |
So, what's the complaint? The professor "just assumed" the contributions were made, and never bothered to check until 18 years later.
Now it's well past the 3 year statue of limitations/collection period established by law, not even the pension office could help him if they wanted to.
If the university made payroll/salary deductions and embezzled them, that would now be a matter for the courts. But even they would be hesitant to do anything AFTER 18 YEARS.
Really, 13-18 years later....???? It was the professor's responsibility to lodge a complaint for unpaid contributions WITHIN the time frame where the NPS can collect. He only has himself to blame for ignoring murphy's law, and assuming everything was on the up-and-up in a country where it is WELL KNOWN embezzlement and tax fraud is rampant.
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| So the university gets a pass regarding why it didn't provide the mandatory coverage starting in 1995? |
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atwood
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| So the university gets a pass regarding why it didn't provide the mandatory coverage starting in 1995? |
He should keep after them. But if the statute of limitations is up he (or his lawyer) may have to have to be creative. Maybe they could go after whoever was president or in charge of professor salaries, etc. at that time. |
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EZE
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll be doing a protest at the South Korean embassy in Washington DC when I return to the USA. "The South Korean government enables Korean universities and schools to steal from foreign professors and teachers." He's welcome to join me. If he has paperwork that can corroborate his story and can scan copies and send them to me, I can upload it as proof on a website I'll be making. When Korea University is committing such fraud, it really shows just how pervasive such fraud is in the South Korean educational system. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Korea University was kind enough to provide him with copies of his contract and pension contribution statements.
They did not provide him with copies of the NPS statement regarding mandatory coverage since 1995, so he provided it to them.
There has been no further response from the university since being referred to the NPS link specifying mandatory coverage since 1995.  |
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EZE
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea University = Wonderland |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Decision of U.S. Social Security Administration:
"Contributions that were not accorded with the reciprocal country will be beyond our rules in order for us to accord you USA benefits under the agreement. The rule is clear that if you do not have enough contributions, we cannot grant you benefits."
Clearly, such a decision manifestly draws into question the integrity and fairness of the Reciprocal Agreement, Korea University and the Korean National Pension System.
The only reason the former Visiting Professor does not have enough contributions is because Korea University did not comply with Korean law.
Apparently, the system gives such non-abiding institutions a pass. |
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