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crimsonnight
Joined: 18 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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 Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject: Quit last year, want to come back. |
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Last year I taught at a hagwon and all of us quit because the boss was an absolute jerk and kept giving us red cards and tried to fire us. My intention was to switch to a d10 and find a new job, but my boss made it impossible by giving a bad reference. I decided to cut my losses, find work back in the US for a bit and wait for my old visa to expire. I am ready to come back. Sooo...
Do I leave the past job experience off? Should I go through a few recruiters with the experience on some and off some applications? My old boss is guaranteed to trash me, as he did the others who quit. Finally, do I need to get a new passport to hide the old visa? When I go to the visa interview at the embassy, are they going to make a fuss how I had an E2 before?
I really loved teaching and working with the kids, but just had a really unfortunate situation with a psycho boss. I really want to go back! |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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The Korean embassy won't care unless you did something illegal. Visa interviews are no longer a requirement anyway. My experience is that some recruiters and employers will want to do a reference check if they know you have worked in Korea before. Some won't bother. You can leave your previous experience off your resume. That doesn't mean future employers can't find out about it when they submit your documents to immigration.
"Then IMMIGRATION sent a letter to the SCHOOL that informed then I had previously worked in Korea and not finished my contract. This in his words RAISED A RED FLAG. He asked me to explain and I did. He said that things do not look promising and I should probably continue my search for another job. The way he has left it is that I will not get my documents back from him and that the manager will now call my previous school to get their side of events...so essentially it's gone."
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=217991&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I pulled a runner and had no problems getting a new job in this country. I left out the previous work info from my resume as well. I went to immigration with a Korean friend before pulling the runner and the officer said there is NOTHING that can prevent me from getting a new visa in the country. New employer never asked about it, and I'm not sure if they ever found out.
I've heard people here say it WILL keep you from getting a new job and have heard others say it WONT. I was able to get back in with zero problems. Part of me thinks with all of the conflicting stories it really depends on whether the officer that day feels like being a d bag and telling your potential employer about your past. |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Quit last year, want to come back. |
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| crimsonnight wrote: |
| My intention was to switch to a d10 and find a new job, but my boss made it impossible by giving a bad reference. |
How did you "quit" while staying in Korea and not getting a D-10? I was told at Immigration that an employer cannot stop you from switching to a D-10. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Quit last year, want to come back. |
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| newchamp wrote: |
| crimsonnight wrote: |
| My intention was to switch to a d10 and find a new job, but my boss made it impossible by giving a bad reference. |
How did you "quit" while staying in Korea and not getting a D-10? I was told at Immigration that an employer cannot stop you from switching to a D-10. |
If person finished contract, then past employer can do nothing. If employee quit, the past employer aka visa sponsor can not give permission to transfer (to a D-10).
In the OPs case he quit and was refused.
You will not need to do a consulate interview unless you have blackmark on your immi record. It is a good idea to leave off the past work. You do not need to get a new passport, never mind immigration can still figure out who you are. Through in the process of getting a new visa the issue of past work could come up and be noticed by future employer or recruiter. |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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Well... I was told at Immigration that you don't need a release letter to transfer to a D-10, even if your contract is not finished. It's not the same as transferring directly to a new job, in which case you need the letter. I was happy to hear how much more fair the rules have become. But check with your local Immigration office, of course.
The OP should have gone to Immigration before "quitting". I put the quote marks because I don't know what the OP did... Did he just not show up to work one day even though he was still under his E-2 visa? That could be interpreted by Immigration as a contract violation, which could be grounds for denial of a D-10 (just a guess though). |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Well... I was told at Immigration that you don't need a release letter to transfer to a D-10, even if your contract is not finished. It's not the same as transferring directly to a new job, in which case you need the letter. I was happy to hear how much more fair the rules have become. But check with your local Immigration office, of course.
The OP should have gone to Immigration before "quitting". I put the quote marks because I don't know what the OP did... Did he just not show up to work one day even though he was still under his E-2 visa? That could be interpreted by Immigration as a contract violation, which could be grounds for denial of a D-10 (just a guess though). |
This is starting to confuse and irk me. I have been hearing people saying they have got a D-10 without a LOR (in case of quitting early or fired). Yet other people have been refused transfers too.
immigration. Results may vary.
Cause this would go against/conflict a previous reinstatement of regulation at immi. The one that came back early this year that stated if people had quit a job and did a runner to Japan. Even coming back on a tourist visa would get a new work visa until the previous visa was canceled. People had to wait for previous visa to expire or get a LOR.
True some of the decision for transferring is up to the discretion of the immigration official of granting the visa. So maybe some people have been given breaks. |
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Nolos
Joined: 23 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
I pulled a runner and had no problems getting a new job in this country. I left out the previous work info from my resume as well. I went to immigration with a Korean friend before pulling the runner and the officer said there is NOTHING that can prevent me from getting a new visa in the country. New employer never asked about it, and I'm not sure if they ever found out.
I've heard people here say it WILL keep you from getting a new job and have heard others say it WONT. I was able to get back in with zero problems. Part of me thinks with all of the conflicting stories it really depends on whether the officer that day feels like being a d bag and telling your potential employer about your past. |
The weirdo stalker pulled a runner. What a loser. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Nolos wrote: |
| IPayInCash wrote: |
I pulled a runner and had no problems getting a new job in this country. I left out the previous work info from my resume as well. I went to immigration with a Korean friend before pulling the runner and the officer said there is NOTHING that can prevent me from getting a new visa in the country. New employer never asked about it, and I'm not sure if they ever found out.
I've heard people here say it WILL keep you from getting a new job and have heard others say it WONT. I was able to get back in with zero problems. Part of me thinks with all of the conflicting stories it really depends on whether the officer that day feels like being a d bag and telling your potential employer about your past. |
The weirdo stalker pulled a runner. What a loser. |
I think one key detail for your tale and others is when you and other other got the D-10 or did transfer without a LOR. Something that might have worked two years ago, might not work this year. |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| Nolos wrote: |
| IPayInCash wrote: |
I pulled a runner and had no problems getting a new job in this country. I left out the previous work info from my resume as well. I went to immigration with a Korean friend before pulling the runner and the officer said there is NOTHING that can prevent me from getting a new visa in the country. New employer never asked about it, and I'm not sure if they ever found out.
I've heard people here say it WILL keep you from getting a new job and have heard others say it WONT. I was able to get back in with zero problems. Part of me thinks with all of the conflicting stories it really depends on whether the officer that day feels like being a d bag and telling your potential employer about your past. |
The weirdo stalker pulled a runner. What a loser. |
Dan, go back to your ajumma wife before she threatens you with another divorce.  |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Skippy wrote: |
| Cause this would go against/conflict a previous reinstatement of regulation at immi. The one that came back early this year[...] |
Where did you hear that the regulation came back? (I mean, what's your source? Can we check it?)
If the rule is back, it's stupid. Why should some scumbag boss, just out of spite, be able to prevent you from getting work? The worse the school is, the more incentive the boss has to scare teachers by denying release letters.
I recommend that people ask their local Immigration office. But do it BEFORE telling your employer of your desire to quit. Then, if Immigration says "no" to your D-10 request, you can still turn back on your decision to quit. (This of course doesn't apply if you've been fired.) |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I recommend that people ask their local Immigration office. But do it BEFORE telling your employer of your desire to quit. Then, if Immigration says "no" to your D-10 request, you can still turn back on your decision to quit. (This of course doesn't apply if you've been fired.) |
Only one problem with this. You can't have two valid visas (E-2 AND D-10) at the same time. Meaning you'd have to quit the E-2 BEFORE Immigration would give you the D-10. |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I recommend that people ask their local Immigration office. But do it BEFORE telling your employer of your desire to quit. Then, if Immigration says "no" to your D-10 request, you can still turn back on your decision to quit. (This of course doesn't apply if you've been fired.) |
Only one problem with this. You can't have two valid visas (E-2 AND D-10) at the same time. Meaning you'd have to quit the E-2 BEFORE Immigration would give you the D-10. |
I know. I don't see where my post suggested you could have two vises at the same time. Please read twice "BEFORE" posting.
If anyone's in a bad situation, go to Immigration and find out your options before passing a point of no return with your boss, who may screw you by not giving a release letter. And if you're really fed up, you could try switching to a D-10 right then and there. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| newchamp wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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I recommend that people ask their local Immigration office. But do it BEFORE telling your employer of your desire to quit. Then, if Immigration says "no" to your D-10 request, you can still turn back on your decision to quit. (This of course doesn't apply if you've been fired.) |
Only one problem with this. You can't have two valid visas (E-2 AND D-10) at the same time. Meaning you'd have to quit the E-2 BEFORE Immigration would give you the D-10. |
I know. I don't see where my post suggested you could have two vises at the same time. Please read twice "BEFORE" posting.
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Why would Immigration give you a D-10 visa when you already have a valid E-2 visa? You would have to quit/cancel it FIRST in order to do that and clear the process for having a new visa.
Meaning that you wouldn't be able to "turn back" if for any reason Immigration decided not to issue the D-10. |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Why would Immigration give you a D-10 visa when you already have a valid E-2 visa? You would have to quit/cancel it FIRST in order to do that and clear the process for having a new visa. |
Are you sure that's how it works? I don't know how the software is set up on Immigration's computer system.
Since no one here knows for sure what will happen, if you're having huge problems with your boss, it wouldn't hurt to go to your local Immigration office and ask what your options are. |
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