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Being made to move house a month before contract end

 
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Isehtis



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Being made to move house a month before contract end Reply with quote

Friend of mine is being made to move house a month before the end of contract, this was told to him just a few days ago and he's going to have to move in a weeks time. Legal?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inconvenient, but nothing legally wrong with it.
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inconvenient, but likely done to make sure the place is ready for the new teacher. Nothing wrong with that really, depending on where they put him for the month.

He gets to pack early anyway! Laughing
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: Being made to move house a month before contract end Reply with quote

Isehtis wrote:
Friend of mine is being made to move house a month before the end of contract, this was told to him just a few days ago and he's going to have to move in a weeks time. Legal?


Happens all the time.
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lemak



Joined: 02 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your friend is leaving, and hence offers little future value to the school. He's essentially used toilet paper. They're more interested in making the new teacher comfortable at you buddy's expense. Likely he'll be dumped into a tiny officetel for the month, or even a cheap hotel room. Koreans tend to look ahead when it comes to relationships..."What *will* you offer me in future?" rather than "Thanks for putting a bunch of $ in my bank account. Let us show our appreciation". I think it's why many schools baulk at paying severance pay. They don't want to give you money when they won't get anything from you after they pay.

And yes, it *is* legal - just an annoyance, and a nice sign as to how he was really valued by his employer. Hope he moves onto better and brighter places.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lemak wrote:
Your friend is leaving, and hence offers little future value to the school. He's essentially used toilet paper. They're more interested in making the new teacher comfortable at you buddy's expense. Likely he'll be dumped into a tiny officetel for the month, or even a cheap hotel room. Koreans tend to look ahead when it comes to relationships..."What *will* you offer me in future?" rather than "Thanks for putting a bunch of $ in my bank account. Let us show our appreciation". I think it's why many schools baulk at paying severance pay. They don't want to give you money when they won't get anything from you after they pay.

And yes, it *is* legal - just an annoyance, and a nice sign as to how he was really valued by his employer. Hope he moves onto better and brighter places.


Wow, really? Do you folks have enough separate thoughts to rub together, or is it simply a refrain of "foreigners get sckrewed?"

Q: Why would a teacher be asked to move out of the apartment?
A: The school is renting the apartment and the rental term has ended.

Q: Why doesn't the school simply extend the rental term for X time, so that the teacher doesn't have to move?
A: Some landlords won't do that, especially if there is a new renter waiting in the wings, willing to rent for a full year or more.

Q: Well, why do they have to inconvenience ME ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEE?
A: Someone has to be inconvenienced. Who can handle that inconvenience better, a person familiar with the town, the area, the school, the students, the teaching schedule and expectations, and who probably knows a little survival Korean, or a person fresh off a plane, jet-lagged, probably befuddled and bewildered by all the changes occuring rapidly around him/her?

It is certainly inconvenient and annoying, but it is NOT part of some vast consipiracy of school operators intended to make life difficult for foreigners.
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beentheredonethat777



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is fairly common.
It could also be that the lease is up and the school will not be renewing the lease at that particular rental property. This is also common. Especially if a teacher arrived later than the school had originally planned.

It might also work to say," I'm sorry that won't be possible" and see what happens.

Two of my friends, who are married, refused to move when told to do so.
They told the school to release them from their contract and they would gladly move. Suddenly, they were allowed to stay until the end and it was never mentioned again. Hmm...

I guess it all depends upon the situation.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the gadfly.. but I would still ask the school to pay my moving fees.
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Jodami



Joined: 08 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd dig my heels in and flat out refuse.

Unless that is, they were willing to compensate you (financially) for the inconvenience.

Have some backbone op, because far far too many NETs here, roll over at the drop of a hat, and dance to every hakwon owner's crooked tune.

Is it any wonder, that a lot NETs are treated like absolute dogs in the ROK. Rolling Eyes
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jodami wrote:
...and dance to every hakwon owner's crooked tune.

Do you have a first clue how leases & rentals work here? It aint like back home.
Nothing in the OP suggests anything nefarious. Its just a move.
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't sound that bad as long as the other place is clean. Like Waygeek said, he can get his stuff organized and pre-pack early.

It's bad if they're moving him into an apartment full of garbage, especially if he already cleaned up one trash can for them already.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
I agree with the gadfly.. but I would still ask the school to pay my moving fees.


Oh, absolutely! The OP shouldn't have to pay for the move, and I'd think is due a little gratitude for taking the hit -- at least an "atta boy!" if not a meal.

Beer and pizza is traditional, I think, and since the school is asking for the move, the school should spring for the pizza Smile
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the rental units here are owned by individuals who have only one or two condos beyond the one they live in. Common reasons for not renewing a rental include owners who have decided to move back into a unit they were renting, owners who want to sell the unit to someone who will live in it, and owners who are raising the rent thinking that the school will cave in to the higher cost and not move.

Since the bulk of the furnishings are usually owned by the school and not by the condo owner, the school is responsible to arrange for and pay for the cost of moving. Most teachers should be able to lug their own belongings in a single car load, so the school should be willing to arrange to move these at the same time.
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lemak wrote:
Your friend is leaving, and hence offers little future value to the school. He's essentially used toilet paper. They're more interested in making the new teacher comfortable at you buddy's expense. Likely he'll be dumped into a tiny officetel for the month, or even a cheap hotel room. Koreans tend to look ahead when it comes to relationships..."What *will* you offer me in future?" rather than "Thanks for putting a bunch of $ in my bank account. Let us show our appreciation". I think it's why many schools baulk at paying severance pay. They don't want to give you money when they won't get anything from you after they pay.

And yes, it *is* legal - just an annoyance, and a nice sign as to how he was really valued by his employer. Hope he moves onto better and brighter places.



Pretty much everything said here is spot on. The moment you reject a contract extension, the attitude towards you changes. My first school actually went out of it's way to give the departing teachers the worst flight possible (unless you like staying in an airport for 20 hours or so), because they were bitter none of the teachers extended their contract.
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