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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Gravity Wins wrote: |
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. |
Yaaaaaaaawn...  |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Gravity Wins wrote: |
| Janny wrote: |
Korean jobs offer flight, higher salary and housing for a reason: it sucks to live there!
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Correction: Your experience living there sucked.
You know, I was speaking to a Korean the other day whose sister had studied in Canada. She said her sister hated it there. She found the country boring and the people were cold. Maybe she was living in Toronto? More likely though, wherever she was staying turned into a boring, cold place because she had a boring, cold attitude about things.
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. But I'm having a damned good time. And if I can no longer say that about Korea at the end of the year, I'll take off for some place else, or I'll go home. I won't spend a decade here by choice and then lament it like some sort of awful prison sentence on Dave's.
Sure, I'm in my honey-moon phase. But too many of you are stuck in your 30-years married to a women you can't stand the sight of phase. And it's off-putting not only to new members of this forum, but to people who prefer enjoying their life.
It sucks living in Korea? In this case, a second-grader's logic actually applies. It's more likely that *you* sucked while living in Korea. |
absolutely this. i laugh at the schmucks who aren't smart enough to figure out how to take advantage of the korean system (or the system of any country for that matter) to enjoy it and just sit around and complain.
hint: most places in the world aren't like your home country. if you can't take it, go back home. |
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Lunar Groove Gardener
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Location: 1987 Subaru
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Consecutive examples of:
2nd grade logic.
Schmuck by definition.
And reach around back pattery.
It is funny how what is used to accuse and abuse is
in such ready evidence in these clues on
what all others should(n't) do.
I'd say this: calling people 2nd graders is immature.
Calling people schnooks is schnookie.
Just my view. That's how it looks.
A teacher would recognize this.
Carry on 'teacher'.
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
| Gravity Wins wrote: |
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. |
Yaaaaaaaawn... |
Let the newbs making 2.1 have their fun. Give them six more months until theyre begging ttompatz for labor board advice or theyre declaring theyre leaving this place and never coming back.  |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| Gravity Wins wrote: |
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. |
Yaaaaaaaawn... |
Let the newbs making 2.1 have their fun. Give them six more months until theyre begging ttompatz for labor board advice or theyre declaring theyre leaving this place and never coming back. |
It is embarrassing to admit I was once like 'Gravity Wins' and then I woke up! |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:34 am Post subject: advice |
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| Janny wrote: |
 Give it a shot. China's booming for English teachers.
Downsides: POLLUTION! It's bad. And prices for everything in Shanghai is only slightly lower than Canada, which is not saying much (everything is high in Canada). The shopping is fantastic. Yes, that's a downside  |
This is very bad advice. There are many more downsides than just pollution. There are real food safety issues. It is extremely crowded. Start up costs are absolutely MASSIVE!!! Rent, deposit, agent fee etc etc etc 
It would be madness to trade in the safety, security and fun of Korea. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: Re: advice |
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| Janny wrote: |
Give it a shot. China's booming for English teachers.
Downsides: POLLUTION! It's bad. And prices for everything in Shanghai is only slightly lower than Canada, which is not saying much (everything is high in Canada). The shopping is fantastic. Yes, that's a downside |
This is very bad advice. There are many more downsides than just pollution. There are real food safety issues. It is extremely crowded. Start up costs are absolutely MASSIVE!!! Rent, deposit, agent fee etc etc etc
It would be madness to trade in the safety, security and fun of Korea. |
Don't make me come over to China and take your job off you. 
It's the choice between China or burger assembling for you right? I know Korea did you wrong when they brought in criminal record checks. |
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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Gravity Wins wrote: |
| I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. But I'm having a damned good time. And if I can no longer say that about Korea at the end of the year, I'll take off for some place else, or I'll go home. I won't spend a decade here by choice and then lament it like some sort of awful prison sentence on Dave's. |
LOL. Cute. Can I take it home, Mommy? |
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Nano
Joined: 09 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Gravity Wins wrote: |
| Janny wrote: |
Korean jobs offer flight, higher salary and housing for a reason: it sucks to live there!
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Correction: Your experience living there sucked.
You know, I was speaking to a Korean the other day whose sister had studied in Canada. She said her sister hated it there. She found the country boring and the people were cold. Maybe she was living in Toronto? More likely though, wherever she was staying turned into a boring, cold place because she had a boring, cold attitude about things.
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. But I'm having a damned good time. And if I can no longer say that about Korea at the end of the year, I'll take off for some place else, or I'll go home. I won't spend a decade here by choice and then lament it like some sort of awful prison sentence on Dave's.
Sure, I'm in my honey-moon phase. But too many of you are stuck in your 30-years married to a women you can't stand the sight of phase. And it's off-putting not only to new members of this forum, but to people who prefer enjoying their life.
It sucks living in Korea? In this case, a second-grader's logic actually applies. It's more likely that *you* sucked while living in Korea. |
I am glad someone on this forum said this. Even though I have never been to Korea but plan on going there, every single one of the people I know in person said it has been such an amazing experience and they absolutely love it. The only people that dislike Korea so much are the ones on this forum and I am kinda puzzled on the strong contrast. My intuition is telling me to listen to the people that I know in RL as opposed to people on the internet so I am just about to send my application to EPIK. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Janny wrote: |
| I was in Korea for 8 years. I went back to Canada for a couple years and was consistently under-employed (I'm a certified teacher). Went back into debt. |
WTF? What do you mean underemployed? You mean after 8 years of experience you couldn't land a full time teaching gig in Canada? I know it is difficult for newbies fresh out of University but seriously wtf? |
http://www.universityaffairs.ca/way-too-many-teachers.aspx
There is a massive oversupply of teachers in Canada...in my home province alone there are roughly 3 applicants for every position.
And an experienced teacher would command a higher salary whereas a newbie they could pay lower. It's extremely tough to break into the market these days.
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The effect of an ever-growing pool of job seekers is reflected in a 2010 survey by the Ontario College of Teachers (PDF), the provincial body that licenses teachers. Most neophyte teachers aren’t getting full-time jobs, or anything close. In 2006, 30 percent of teachers in their first year after graduation were either unemployed or underemployed. By 2010, that proportion had more than doubled, to 68 percent. Nearly one in four new teachers got no work at all, up from just three percent in 2006.
“It’s like your life is on hold,” says Yvonne Ringler. Since graduating in 2005 from Lakehead University’s one-year bachelor of education program, the 30-year-old has worked a variety of daily supply and long-term supply jobs in a school board east of Toronto and even taught overseas. But she has been unable to secure a full-time teaching position. Two of her friends are in exactly the same boat. |
And this is from two years ago...it's only gotten worse with more and more teaching graduates rolling out each year.
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Lunar Groove Gardener
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Location: 1987 Subaru
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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QUOTE:[I am glad someone on this forum said this. Even though I have never been to Korea but plan on going there, every single one of the people I know in person said it has been such an amazing experience and they absolutely love it. The only people that dislike Korea so much are the ones on this forum and I am kinda puzzled on the strong contrast. My intuition is telling me to listen to the people that I know in RL as opposed to people on the internet so I am just about to send my application to EPIK.]
If things occur, which you find unfair, displeasing, shocking, unacceptable as regards
your treatment at work, your contract demands, specific personal experiences, you might end up mentioning them here.
To think that these occurrences are:
a.) untrue
b.) only happen to bad people
c.) should not be openly discussed
d.) represent an insignificant proportion of experiences in Korea
e.) would not be things you'd ever mention when discussing conditions in the
Korean EFL industry
IS
1.) incorrect
2.) illogical
3.) naive
4.) quieting to an important portion of discussion
5.) would remove a lot of warnings and red flags which are very effective in
helping those new to the peninsula/workplace
So, your question, I think, is: Is Korea alllll bad things?
You know the answer.
Why do people have bad experiences and then write about them here?
You know the answer.
Why don't people have only nice and cozy, warm-hearted and lovely aspects to refer to when they tell of their daily lives in Korea?
AND FINALLY, because we're all here to HELP YOU:
Santa Clause is dead, but he was a black man.
Come on over. You'll love it. You'll have complaints. But, yes, you'll learn a lot
about life, yourself, the world, other cultures, cultural differences, tolerance, hidden animosities, and perhaps you'll learn to dance, play piano, buy a house, marry, or get hit by the 1000th cement truck that runs through that red light in front of your apartment at 75kph as you walk to school.
Let's hope not. But if you did, you'd be pissed, I think.
Or somebody here would be. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| QUOTE:[I am glad someone on this forum said this. Even though I have never been to Korea but plan on going there, every single one of the people I know in person said it has been such an amazing experience and they absolutely love it. |
I suspect for the vast majority of those people, Korea was their first experience of living abroad and probably living independently from parents/university. I imagine they were also here for a short time. I work mostly with people who have worked in TEFL in other countries before and actually can't recall a single person who ended up liking this place better than the country they were working in before. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Janny wrote: |
| I was in Korea for 8 years. |
| Janny wrote: |
| Korean jobs offer flight, higher salary and housing for a reason: it sucks to live there! |
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| Gravity Wins wrote: |
Correction: Your experience living there sucked.
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. But I'm having a damned good time. |
Um, who would know more? |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| Janny wrote: |
| I was in Korea for 8 years. |
| Janny wrote: |
| Korean jobs offer flight, higher salary and housing for a reason: it sucks to live there! |
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Correction: Your experience living there sucked.
I've admittedly only been in Korea for a couple of months. But I'm having a damned good time. |
Um, who would know more? |
i know much more about automobiles than the large majority of the population that drives every single day, yet i don't own a car nor do i drive in korea.
see how your logic is flawed?
however i do agree that occum's razor would indeed suggest janny would know more, but then she started typing and that theory went down the toilet. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Do any of you have friends who all they do is sit around and complain about things, and how nothing is their fault, and life sucks?
I don't, because those type of people are a miserable waste of space. But I get to have the virtual experience of it here at Daves. |
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