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Brooks



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a crime.
In Tokyo it is worse since the yakuza can strong arm you.

Deal with your credit card company and the police.

Thanks for the information. I haven`t been on the north side of Itaewon.
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sendittheemail



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened to me once in Itaewon. Shady bar owner kept swiping my card until the bank blocked it out of suspicion. Something like $1000 or so. The place was dark, and the clerk wasn't able to forge my signature on the digital pad (most of them are too dumb to do this anyway).

I called my bank immediately, and reported my card stolen and disputed the charges.

Bank compared the signature on file, with the signature on the receipts (which of course didn't even come close to matching).

I got all of the money back. According to Visa and MC policy, you are not liable for charges that were made without your knowledge, or without your consent.

If however, you used a Korean card, you may well be out of luck.

BTW OP: either I know you, or the same exact thing happened recently to someone I know.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to read between the lines about what you're saying. This doesn't sound rational. If stopped by for some glasses of wine and they opened up a new bottle every time, it would be fraud, and I would contact the police. I would also contact my credit card to refuse the transactions. But why wouldn't you do that? Did you ask for a different wine each time?
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lesson to be learned here is that.....if you pay in cash...........you can have a different smoking hot girlfriend every night. And you won't have credit card problems.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Be careful guys! Reply with quote

How To Avoid A Prostitute Drink Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQBiilVBkqc

How To Avoid A Prostitute Pickpocket Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKo7JW5isuA

Thai Girl Talks About The Thai Girlfriend Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMYLychMXc

How To Avoid The Black Widow Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEgol8UstaY

How To Avoid A Strip Club Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dz-dY_TGEE

How To Avoid A Club Scam in Istanbul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7aU8rmccFM

OP, you should contact the makers of this show with details of your story. Maybe they'll do an episode at the place you visited (which will help warn others).
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always pay with a credit card at places like that. Visa or Mastercard can do an investigation if there are unauthorized charges. If it is determined that the bar is at fault then the charges will be removed from your account. The bar will have to refund the credit card company or risk being blacklisted so that credit card companies will refuse to do business with them in the future. If you pay with a debit card it is much harder to recover your money.
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IPayInCash



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Be careful guys! Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
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Meh, I've run into ALL of these in one shape or form having traveled the world extensively. The only people falling for these are a) betas ] or b) suckers. Which is why when I travel alone I'm always joining up with a group of other travelers and sometimes there's upwards of 20 of us barhopping and whatnot. I don't go walking around the backstreets alone conspicuously looking for whores. Might as well right SUCKER on your forehead when you do that.

I don't have any sympathy for people that fall for these scams. There's only one thing you need to know when you're traveling abroad: If it's too good to be true....

Teach the betas a good lesson.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's lots of hot big boobed Korean women in Itaewon now? Dang! I got to go back there. Haven't been in ages.... Smile
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for fun, let's assume the OP is true. Steps to follow:

Contact bank.
Dispute all charges at that venue for that date.
Cancel credit/debit card.
Have bank issue new card with a new number.
Don't go to juicy bars ever again.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baffled by why you changed the title of the thread. You've made it less effective.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Cut up your credit cards.

Use cash when you go out.

Problem solved.


Yeah, I've never used anything but cash in Itaewon, and never carry more cash than I care to lose. Same goes for Philippines, China, Thailand, etc. Be safe, carry small bills (in case they don't give you proper change), never use the card, be aware if you look drunk they are more likely to try a scam.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011