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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:10 pm Post subject: John McCain: ‘maybe we should legalize’ pot |
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Drug war hawk John McCain is turning pot dove.
McCain appears open to making a dramatic shift on marijuana policy, saying during a townhall meeting in Arizona that he's on open to potentially legalizing weed.
“Maybe we should legalize. We're certainly moving that way as far as marijuana is concerned,” McCain said in comments first reported by Arizona Daily Star columnist Tim Steller. “I respect the will of the people."
In the past, McCain has been a hardliner on federal drug policy. During his 2000 presidential primary campaign the Arizona Republican suggested increasing penalties and sentence guidelines for those convicted of drug crimes. |
http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain--%E2%80%98maybe-we-should-legalize%E2%80%99-pot--192226634.html
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In 2012, McCain’s daughter Meghan McCain told NBC’s “Tonight Show” host Jay Leno that she favors legalizing marijuana and admitted to having smoked a joint.
“Yes, I come out for legalizing marijuana in this book,” McCain told Leno. “I was living in Los Angeles very briefly last year and I was shocked at how people here smoke weed the way people in New York pour wine.” |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013 Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Republicans compromising their morals, this is how desperate they are to regain voters and appeal to them. Theyre a little late for the flipflopping. I dont see voters that left their party going back any timesoon. |
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Deja
Joined: 18 Mar 2011
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see "potters" as being voters, so this can hardly count as way to get votes :d |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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IPayInCash wrote: |
Republicans compromising their morals, this is how desperate they are to regain voters and appeal to them. Theyre a little late for the flipflopping. I dont see voters that left their party going back any timesoon. |
This sounds a little more specific to the DEMOCRATS
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-12-22/voters-political-parties/52171688/1
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Registered Democrats still dominate the political playing field with more than 42 million voters, compared to 30 million Republicans and 24 million independents. But Democrats have lost the most — 1.7 million, or 3.9%, from 2008. |
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In the eight swing states that register voters by party, Democrats' registration is down by 800,000 and Republicans' by 350,000. Independents have gained 325,000. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Deja wrote: |
I don't see "potters" as being voters, so this can hardly count as way to get votes :d |
I'm guessing you're not American. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:22 am Post subject: |
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northway wrote: |
Deja wrote: |
I don't see "potters" as being voters, so this can hardly count as way to get votes :d |
I'm guessing you're not American. |
I think that's a safe bet.
Even though I'm okay with pot legalization and think it's long overdue, McCain is I believe totally senile and delusional and therefore a threat to national security (off his rocker). |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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McCain can be reasonable on some issues. And it's not that he's for legalization, it;s that he recognizes the American people are for it, foir a variety of reasons.
He said basically the same thing about Obamacare, that by re-electing Obama Americans showed they favored it and the Republican should recognize that and quit fighting it. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:45 am Post subject: |
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atwood wrote: |
McCain can be reasonable on some issues. And it's not that he's for legalization, it;s that he recognizes the American people are for it, foir a variety of reasons.
He said basically the same thing about Obamacare, that by re-electing Obama Americans showed they favored it and the Republican should recognize that and quit fighting it. |
Woah, sounds like a politician trying to listen to the people.
Strange.
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Pot will become legal, not because the government realizes its stupid to outlaw it but for one reason only: money.
States will do what advocates have always recommended for them to do, legalize it so it can be taxed. states and municipalities are desperate for new sources of revenue. They can't keep raising personal taxes without a backlash. So, they will do this. Money (greed) is the driving force for some social changes. NYC major Bloomberg was for gay marriage simply because gays as a collective have a lot of buying power and they would come to NYC to get married and while there spend money.
I don't know if McCain's motivation is to get voters to his side of the aisle but state governments will do it for money and the Obama administration has been slowing down its enforcing of the law when states are legalizing medicinal pot. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Here's breath of fresh air, so to speak:
Support For Legalizing Marijuana Grows To Highest Point Ever In Gallup Poll
For the first time, more than half of Americans think that marijuana usage should be made legal, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday.
Fifty-eight percent of Americans now back legalizing marijuana. That represents an 8-point increase from the previous record of 50 percent in 2011, and a 10-point increase from November 2012, just after Colorado and Washington voted for legalization.
"With Americans' support for legalization quadrupling since 1969, and localities on the East Coast such as Portland, Maine, considering a symbolic referendum to legalize marijuana, it is clear that interest in this drug and these issues will remain elevated in the foreseeable future," wrote Art Swift, Gallup's managing editor.
Much of the new support for legalization comes among independent voters, 62 percent of whom now support it, up from just 50 percent last November. Majorities of all age groups up to age 64 also support legalization, including two-thirds of those from 18 to 29.
Other surveys have found rapidly increasing support for legalizing marijuana use. A Pew Research poll released in March found a majority supporting legalization for the first time.
The Gallup poll surveyed 1,028 Americans by phone between Oct. 3 and Oct. 6.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/legal-marijuana-poll_n_4143995.html
The other day I read an article entitled something like 'the de Tocqueville
Factor' about why same sex marriage spread so quickly once its acceptance reached the tipping point. The main idea was that once something reaches a certain point of popularity in a democracy, the force of public opinion takes over. There's been more work done since his day, but I think the old boy might have been on to something 180 years ago.
Now we just need VeeP Joe to spill the beans on administrative plans to hurry things along. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Just to add a few numbers:
To be specific, 65% of Democrats and 62% of indies support legalization, as compared to 35% of Republicans. Even more predictably, there is an inverse relationship between support for legalization and age: 67% of under-30s and 62% of those 30-50 are there; and even a solid majority (56-40) of folks 50-64 have no problem with street-legal wacky tobacky. Only seniors oppose legalization, but even they do so by a narrow 53-45 margin.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
Kevin Drum thinks by 2020...
There's a lot of noise in polls like this, and we might see a bit of regression to the mean in the next few years. And Mark Kleiman offers a few other cautionary notes here. So 2016 is hardly a sure thing. But 2020? That seems like a pretty safe bet in most of the country. By coincidence, this was my horseback guess when I wrote about marijuana back in 2009, and it looks like I don't have any good reason to change my mind on that.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/10/marijuana-will-probably-be-legal-most-country-2020
If this is true, we'll soon find out if there is any truth to the charge that libertarians are just Republicans who like to smoke weed. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Korea needs some marijuana ASAP. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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