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Air pollution in Korea + Japan + China today
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saram_ wrote:
Not sure where the greater threat lies..
The air pollution from China or the radioactive waste from Japan. ( not to mention NK)

Korea is squeezed in the middle.

Heard recently through an adult student that a top level nuclear scientist here had said he wouldn't be surprised if Japan was completely evacuated inside of 30/40 years.... This was not something he was shouting from the rooftops but rather telling his close friends and family.

It's quite a prediction..


Even we, in our glorious apologist camp, seldom believe what the Korean scientists say - so take that for what you will.
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saram_



Joined: 13 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the fact he has only today his family and such about it that's the worry..
It wasn't an attention seeking viewpoint.. Just how he as a very knowledgable nuclear scientist envisaged things.. Again, I'm going on second hand info so I'm not going to be standing up for anybody.

I wouldn't be too critical of Science in Korea tho.. I thought of Science here as one of its stronger areas. Maybe I'm completely wrong tho. It's kind of an irrelevant point for this topic anyway I think.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fall and winter have the most blue sky days where you can clearly see the mountains. But, lately, the humidity is back. (Not hot, just humid. Makes it damp at night, which is annoying. Temp not cold, but dampness makes it feel more chilly sometimes.) Korea seems to have this constant haze and humidity mix hanging over it. Summer is the worst, but it seems to cling year round in varying degrees. First two weeks of October is really nice here. Also, some of the colder weeks in January, I like bacause of clear air and very blue skies. I like being able to see the mountains clearly. The past few days, they are difficult to see.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Next, it is possible the numbers for Korea are not wholly accurate, as they have been known to fudge things in order to make themselves look good..




Yes because every other country in the world would NEVER fudge statistics...never.


And while we are on the topic.

As regards 2011 statistics on the production of carbon dioxide South Korea falls into sixth places behind China, the U.S and Japan and just ahead of Canada.

If we look at the production of carbon dioxide per capita...South Korea falls to 24th place...well below both the U.S.A and Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#List_of_countries_by_2011_emissions_estimates


http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/6131/economics/list-of-co2-emissions-per-capita/


And they are working on it.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20110815000267

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Thanks to recent green initiatives, the air of Seoul and its adjacent areas have become cleaner than ever, the Ministry of Environment said Monday.

According to authorities, the fine dust density of Seoul was 49 micrograms per cubic meter last year, passing the domestic air quality standard of 50 micrograms. It is about a 10 percent reduction from a year earlier and the lowest since the measurements began in 1995.

The ministry explained that air quality of Seoul has constantly improved since 2005, when general measures against air pollution were adopted nationwide. Dust density was recorded at 61 micrograms per cubic meter in 2007 but has improved every year since.
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mayorhaggar



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up in Florida, it's more humid than Korea and it never gets hazy like Korea does. Spent a week in late August in Japan, very hot and humid (hotter than SK) and the air was crystal clear.

Also pollution counts don't really matter, we're talking about how clear the air visibility is, not how much different countries are destroying the planet. The US is the biggest polluter by far but the pollution is so spread out that we don't have any post-apocalyptic cities like Beijing where you can't see anything due to brown smoggy murk. We also don't have any super-dense cities like Seoul where pollution builds up just because of how many cars and factories there are in a smallish area.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mayorhaggar wrote:
I grew up in Florida, it's more humid than Korea and it never gets hazy like Korea does. Spent a week in late August in Japan, very hot and humid (hotter than SK) and the air was crystal clear.

Also pollution counts don't really matter, we're talking about how clear the air visibility is, not how much different countries are destroying the planet. The US is the biggest polluter by far but the pollution is so spread out that we don't have any post-apocalyptic cities like Beijing where you can't see anything due to brown smoggy murk. We also don't have any super-dense cities like Seoul where pollution builds up just because of how many cars and factories there are in a smallish area.



Being right next door to the biggest polluter in the world doesn't help either.

There's so much pollution coming from China...that it is visible to the naked eye. "Yellow dust" anyone?


Quote:
Although Japan, South Korea
,
and China contribute to the air pollution
problems of each other to some degree, South Korea is
the
most
vulnerable to transboundary pollution from China. One expert estimated
that 49% of the air pollution in South Korea can be attributed to China.


If that is correct that means China accounts for about half of South Korea's air pollution.

http://www.khls.ac.kr/eum/layouts/eum_cafe/pro/down/Washington.pdf
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saram_



Joined: 13 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some terrible dust in the air today from China..
I wont be going out much today I think.
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