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atutter
Joined: 02 Dec 2012
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: Expected Salary |
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So, I want to make sure that I'm not being unreasonable with my salary expectations.
To start off, I worked for Korea in a hagwon for 2 years with middle school and elementary school students. I have a Teacher's certification to teach Early Childhood through Grade 6. Although, I've heard that teacher certifications in the USA mean nothing for finding a job in Korea. I also have experience as a substitute in the USA as well as private tutoring. What could I reasonably expect for a salary, 2.3? |
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nicwr2002
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| Maybe, but you would have to be willing to live outside of Seoul. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Kindy classes might be possible, and you would have to spend more time like at lunch with them. If you want that, go for it. The typical public school job in Seoul is around 1.8 and they don't care about your qualifications outside of kimchiland. |
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Canadian Club
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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If you are a certified teacher from a western country, you should be looking at much more from an international school.
Of course, if you want to teach ESL in a hagwon/public school (and I know 2 certified teachers who are happy with that), settle for less money, but also less work/responsibility.
Are you currently in Korea? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Expected Salary |
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| atutter wrote: |
So, I want to make sure that I'm not being unreasonable with my salary expectations.
To start off, I worked for Korea in a hagwon for 2 years with middle school and elementary school students. I have a Teacher's certification to teach Early Childhood through Grade 6. Although, I've heard that teacher certifications in the USA mean nothing for finding a job in Korea. I also have experience as a substitute in the USA as well as private tutoring. What could I reasonably expect for a salary, 2.3? |
Give your head a shake and get out of EFL mode.
As a state certified teacher you should be looking at international (as in internationally accredited - not just in name) schools region wide unless you have some particular reason to be stuck in entry level EFL jobs in Korea.
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
| Kindy classes might be possible, and you would have to spend more time like at lunch with them. If you want that, go for it. The typical public school job in Seoul is around 1.8 and they don't care about your qualifications outside of kimchiland. |
You're kidding right? I thought a starting wage was 2.0 or 2.1 millionish or something like that and a bit more in rural places? I'm seeing more offers lately at 2.3ish. A year ago, I was seeing a lot offered at 2.1ish. I hope we're turning the corner. But, time will tell. |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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OP:
If you're teaching kindy, don't forget to ALWAYS wear a suit.
Appearance means everything in The ROK.
Good luck. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| A year ago, I was seeing a lot offered at 2.1ish. I hope we're turning the corner. But, time will tell. |
2.5-2.6 for this one:
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*No. Native English teacher : 16
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*Benefits :Health insurance (50/50), national pension (50/50), one way airfare from home country to Korea. (If a person alreay in Korea, this school will offer 1 million won for flight ticket at the end of contract.) Severance pay, 10 days paid vacations plus all national holidays.
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| LMAO @ "certified teachers", working at hagwons in Korea. |
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frankhenry
Joined: 13 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
| LMAO @ "certified teachers", working at hagwons in Korea. |
Why not? It's rare but there are a few hagwons that are on par with the public schools, or better. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
| LMAO @ "certified teachers", working at hagwons in Korea. |
You'll find them.
They usually fall into two categories:
1. Can't get a job out of school. There's a huge surplus of new teachers in many countries.
2. Worked as a teacher in the public school but got fired for any number of reasons (usually social problems). |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| Paddycakes wrote: |
You'll find them.
They usually fall into two categories:
1. Can't get a job out of school. There's a huge surplus of new teachers in many countries.
2. Worked as a teacher in the public school but got fired for any number of reasons (usually social problems). |
So, you're saying that it's only the "certified" rejects?
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
You'll find them.
They usually fall into two categories:
1. Can't get a job out of school. There's a huge surplus of new teachers in many countries.
2. Worked as a teacher in the public school but got fired for any number of reasons (usually social problems). |
So, you're saying that it's only the "certified" rejects?
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For group #1, no. The teacher colleges are pumping out way more teachers than there are jobs.
For group #2, yes. Think about it. Why would a certified teacher with experience give up their position, benefits, security, status to work at a hogwan in Korea?
The answer is because they pissed off the wrong people back home and didn't get their contracts renewed. They're unemployable.
Every industry has its share of misfits... they usually get culled in the 1st year or two. Many find their way to Korea. |
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atutter
Joined: 02 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice everyone. I'm not a "reject" from the American system. I actually only have one certification so far, then I need to get another one and start an internship here to be a "real" teacher here.
But, I'm deciding to return to Korea because I loved working there. I've never really thought of applying to international schools, but I'll look at it now.
I'm in the USA right now.
Thanks again! |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| frankhenry wrote: |
| Jodami wrote: |
| LMAO @ "certified teachers", working at hagwons in Korea. |
Why not? It's rare but there are a few hagwons that are on par with the public schools, all the rest are better. |
Fixed it for ya.
The fact is that all real learning in Korea happens in hogwans, with private teachers at home or, for those who are able, students teaching themselves. The Korean government schools are babysitting centers with class sizes that are too large and students whose abilities are too diverse to be in the same class. As a result, Korea has one of the highest percentages of students seeking enrollment in the US and other countries to escape the horrible government school system. Most private day schools run on the government model and are little better.
It's the hogwans where the kids learn. This is especially true with English language classes. There is even a growing movement of students who only attend hogwans, having dropped out of the government schools and finding nothing better in the private day schools. It isn't legal, yet, but their parents are willing to break the law to improve their children's educational outcomes. |
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