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Markrly
Joined: 10 Apr 2012
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:01 pm Post subject: Working at a brand new school |
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Would you ever consider working at a brand new school that is just opening? I mean the upside being they don't have a bad track record, but they have no record. No past or current employees to speak to about the working conditions, on time pay, etc. All the things you are supposed to check on you can't in this situation and so due diligence seems to go straight out the window. Is there any advantage to accepting a job at a brand new school? I say this because I came across this ad and was wondering what the general consensus is on working at new schools.
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=58987 |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I would be more worried about making 2.1 for 9.5 hour days. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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school or hagwon?
g1-12 School = no problem.
hagwon:
new hagwon + experienced teacher = usually pretty good if there is a fit between the boss and the teacher. Great room for growth as well as teacher development.
new school + new teacher = recipe for disaster (for the school and the teacher). The failure rate goes over 90%.
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| I work at a school that is pretty new. I am the first foreign teacher ever hired. My advice would be see what curriculum they have (if any). |
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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013 Location: AsiaHaven
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Working at a brand new school |
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"Markrly"]Would you ever consider working at a brand new school that is just opening?
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H*ll no!! Unless I was the owner!
There's just too much that could go wrong.(especially if you're a newbie)
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This ^^ statement, coming from a highly adventurous, overflowingly positive, storm-weathered, risk-taking individual; should be weighed heavily when making your decision. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:09 am Post subject: |
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If you are experienced as a teacher so that you can create your own curriculum on the fly, then it may be an interesting and exciting adventure. But, be ready to bail if the school fails.
Many new K - 12 private schools fail in Korea, classified in Korea as hakyos, as do private schools that are legally classified as hogwans. The government schools in Korea have already failed - they all teach nothing, but they won't go out of business for quite a while yet. However, the government schools are continuing to cut back on the number of native English speakers that they hire, so renewal could be a problem. |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| furtakk wrote: |
| I would be more worried about making 2.1 for 9.5 hour days. |
+1. That's pretty bad. |
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:56 am Post subject: |
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2.1 is pretty low, especially considering they are looking for a teacher already in Korea who can transfer his E-2 visa. Anyone who has experience should be closer to 2.3-2.5.
They mention paying the health insurance and severance, but omit pension...they probably don't pay it and boom there goes another 100,000/ month (for Americans and Canadians)
I guess it all depends on whether you are willing to take a 300,000/month paycut to work in a foreign owned school. Personally I would give it a pass if I was still on an E-2 |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| DaeguNL wrote: |
| 2.1 is pretty low, ... |
But it's the HOURS that are horrible. For 9.5 hours at work a day you'd better be getting at least 2.5 plus benefits. And if your boss or co-workers treat you less than professionally, which happens all too often at Korean hagwons, that kind of schedule will burn you out.
There's a lot of bad advice on this board. There was another thread recently where a guy had a job offer for 1.9 for 19 hours per week, in a location he wanted that would be hard to find another position in. A bunch of people wrote back saying "Don't take it!" just because the pay was low.
You've got to look at the OVERALL conditions, not just the pay.
| In their advertisement, Pia School wrote: |
Pay: 2.0~2.1million\ (plus housing)
Working Condition: Full Time Monday to Friday duration; 8:30am ~ 6:00pm |
By the way DaeguNL, I doubt it's a foreign-owned school.
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| Owned by a New Zealand Educated Teacher/Manager |
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