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Do I need a certified copy of my diploma for each new visa??

 
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is so delicious



Joined: 28 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Do I need a certified copy of my diploma for each new visa?? Reply with quote

PLEASE say it ain't so. I could have sworn you only have to do this once... and is it true that I actually need TWO copies these days??

Also, do I need TWO copies of the criminal background check?? Argh.

Lastly, is there any way I can get both or either of these documents notarized/certified at the American embassy?? I could have sworn I made this happen a couple of years ago, but I can't remember which document it was...

PLEASE HELP!!
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Do I need a certified copy of my diploma for each new vi Reply with quote

is so delicious wrote:
PLEASE say it ain't so. I could have sworn you only have to do this once... and is it true that I actually need TWO copies these days??

Also, do I need TWO copies of the criminal background check?? Argh.

Lastly, is there any way I can get both or either of these documents notarized/certified at the American embassy?? I could have sworn I made this happen a couple of years ago, but I can't remember which document it was...

PLEASE HELP!!



For what kind of job? This is an important detail. If you are going with EPIK or SMOE then being asked for and to provide two of each is common. If it is hagwon, then it will likely not be needed.

Plus how are you doing the visa process? From scratch? A transfer? Here in Korea? Back in home country?

In general if it is a new visa (from no visa to E2 visa) it will mean new paperwork. If you are transferring (E-2 or D-10 to another E2 visa) then you likely do not need to submit new paperwork.

No ONE CRC is fine, but MOE might want a certified COPY later. Yet, once again if you are applying for EPIK then the asking for 2 of some papers is common.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you have given a notarized apostilled copy of your degree to Immigration, you no longer have to do it again. Immigration has it on file. The Apostilled CBC you will have to give again to Immigration and it has to be no more than 6 months old. The reason prospective employees are having to come up with two Apostilled CBC's and Apostilled diploma copies is I believe the MOE requires one if you are working in Seoul or maybe Greater Seoul. Immigration only requires one diploma and one CBC both apostilled.

If you are having problems with this I think you can contact Immigration and have them send copies of your diploma and CBC to the MOE.
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is so delicious



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for writing. Truly. I am so stressed about this (mainly because I'm doing it abroad).

I don't know what kind of job I'm going for. I am going to Korea, getting my documents a month later, and then trying to find a job.

Anyway yes, I am doing this from scratch. Some of it will be from Istanbul, some of it will be done in Korea.

Also, does anyone know if the American embassy can provide anything that works as an apostille? I know I got something certified there once, and it worked for immigration, but I can't remember which document...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Once you have given a notarized apostilled copy of your degree to Immigration, you no longer have to do it again. Immigration has it on file. The Apostilled CBC you will have to give again to Immigration and it has to be no more than 6 months old. The reason prospective employees are having to come up with two Apostilled CBC's and Apostilled diploma copies is I believe the MOE requires one if you are working in Seoul or maybe Greater Seoul. Immigration only requires one diploma and one CBC both apostilled.

If you are having problems with this I think you can contact Immigration and have them send copies of your diploma and CBC to the MOE.


WOW... that would be nice. And (gasp) logical! Apparently I have found a company that will apostillize my CRC back in America (by mail).
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is so delicious



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Once you have given a notarized apostilled copy of your degree to Immigration, you no longer have to do it again. Immigration has it on file. The Apostilled CBC you will have to give again to Immigration and it has to be no more than 6 months old. The reason prospective employees are having to come up with two Apostilled CBC's and Apostilled diploma copies is I believe the MOE requires one if you are working in Seoul or maybe Greater Seoul. Immigration only requires one diploma and one CBC both apostilled.

If you are having problems with this I think you can contact Immigration and have them send copies of your diploma and CBC to the MOE.


Do you know if the MOE only requires their own apostillized copy of a CRC for public schools? Or is it ALL schools?
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Hokie21



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Once you have given a notarized apostilled copy of your degree to Immigration, you no longer have to do it again. Immigration has it on file.


Where did you see this? I'm in the process of returning to Korea and have been asked to provide a notarized and apostilled diploma again. It's not a big deal but if I can avoid doing it again then obviously that would be ideal.

If it matters, I will be returning to a hagwon I used to work at (amazing I know but I think I lucked out, I just really had a very good experience the first time.)
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Skippy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
Once you have given a notarized apostilled copy of your degree to Immigration, you no longer have to do it again. Immigration has it on file.


Where did you see this? I'm in the process of returning to Korea and have been asked to provide a notarized and apostilled diploma again. It's not a big deal but if I can avoid doing it again then obviously that would be ideal.

If it matters, I will be returning to a hagwon I used to work at (amazing I know but I think I lucked out, I just really had a very good experience the first time.)


It does quote on official government sites that if a person in the past has submitted a verified degree they will not need to do it again. Problem is that reality is different. In general, new applications mean new paperwork. Do not rely and expect things to be kept on file.
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Troglodyte



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Hokie21 wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
Once you have given a notarized apostilled copy of your degree to Immigration, you no longer have to do it again. Immigration has it on file.


Where did you see this? I'm in the process of returning to Korea and have been asked to provide a notarized and apostilled diploma again. It's not a big deal but if I can avoid doing it again then obviously that would be ideal.

If it matters, I will be returning to a hagwon I used to work at (amazing I know but I think I lucked out, I just really had a very good experience the first time.)


It does quote on official government sites that if a person in the past has submitted a verified degree they will not need to do it again. Problem is that reality is different. In general, new applications mean new paperwork. Do not rely and expect things to be kept on file.


I've heard rumors recently of immigration using the copies they already have on file, but I'm not sure how reliable those rumors are. It seems that the majority of the time, when people apply for a new visa (not a transfer but a new visa) then they need to submit new documents. The only way to find out though, is to try. Ask your prospective employer to put in the application for a VIN. Nothing to lose from trying. If they let you use the documents already on file, go for it. If immigration issues the VIN, then you're good to go. Either way, please let us know how it turns out.
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is so delicious wrote:
Thank you for writing. Truly. I am so stressed about this (mainly because I'm doing it abroad).

I don't know what kind of job I'm going for. I am going to Korea, getting my documents a month later, and then trying to find a job.

Anyway yes, I am doing this from scratch. Some of it will be from Istanbul, some of it will be done in Korea.

Also, does anyone know if the American embassy can provide anything that works as an apostille? I know I got something certified there once, and it worked for immigration, but I can't remember which document...


The American Embassy in Korea will not notarize any documents anymore whether it be a driver's license or marriage certificate.
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Hokie21



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and just a follow up. I mentioned to my new employer that Korean Immigration still has my diploma on file. Didn't matter, they want all new paperwork.
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LAtoSeoul



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Transferring from Public to private. Reply with quote

I am transferring from public school to private. what documentation will I need to do so? Is it just a letter of release?
I have worked for the hagwon previously for 2 years.
I took a year break and went home.
and then did two years at a public school.
Now I am going back to the hagwon.
Will immigration have any of my documents still? Like my diploma?
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Transferring from Public to private. Reply with quote

LAtoSeoul wrote:
I am transferring from public school to private.

Sounds dangerous.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Transferring from Public to private. Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
LAtoSeoul wrote:
I am transferring from public school to private.

Sounds dangerous.


Not as dangerous as traveling the world Laughing
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