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[cmxc]

I believe this piece of self-criticism by a Korean of the Korean mentality knocks it out of the park on so many levels, but the title is too understated.

He discusses Korea and Japan relations, Korean emotionality, Koreans breaking contracts at whim whenever it doesn't suit them, 2008 Mad Cow protests, etc etc.

Some choice quotes:
"As long as we turn to our emotions first and fail to deal with matters logically, all the while refusing to see how our emotional behavior may be perceived by others, we will never be able to beat Japan at anything."

"There are times when Koreans end up revealing a side of themselves to the outside world that is nothing to be proud of. Now is the time to show the world that we can be rational and objective and respectful of international pledges. It may prove the hardest thing we ever had to do."

Are Koreans Too Intractable?
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/11/13/2013111301651.html

[Captain Corea]

If a poster here wrote that, "certain" others would be all over it.

But with a korean writing it, it strikes of having more validity.

[NohopeSeriously]

This is the first time I see Koreans and rational in a single paragraph.

[Steelrails]

Well, if either a Korean or an NET wrote a questioning piece on NETs, certain posters would be all over it and call the writer a hack.

And one thing- There is a huge difference between people of other cultures and ethnicities going into people's communities and telling them how to change vs. that coming form within. Also, there is a question of motivation and the emotion behind such statements. Some people criticize out of an effort to make a place better, others do so as a means to put people down and elevate themselves.

It's usually pretty easy to tell when someone is criticizing out of concern and when they are doing so out of a darker sentiment.

[maximmm]

[Steelrails]

Ignore the splitter above. He represents a zealous sect, more concerned with dogma and theology than sustaining the party and its revolutionary ideals.

The truth is that this reactionary author has merely has been corrupted by destabilizing elements who seek to impede the success of the Five Year Plan. His disdain for zeal for the Motherland and his embrace of the "accountability faction" of the party has been noted and our agents have been dispatched to educate him. I believe that the Special Revolutionary Academy and Enlightenment Center in Gangwon-do will "persuade" him of the error of his ways. The Great Patriotic Struggle against the Invader from the East will only triumph if the Korean proletariat continues to oppose the fascist elements that seek to deprive her of her treasures.

The Revolution continues unabated my glorious Apologista brothers and sisters! The Great Purge of counterrevolutionary elements will root out these traitors. Glory to the Motherland! Glory to the Apologista cause.

The Ministry of Propaganda

maximmm- While the Ministry appreciates your zeal, we are displeased with your lack of dedication to The Party and an excessive focus on the dogmatic elements of the Philosophy of the Motherland. Please confine your statements to those supporting The Party and its Glorious Revolution. It would be wise not to displease THE Comrade.

[maximmm]

[Old fat expat]

Good one Steelrails. Too funny.

[andrewchon]

What OP can do is to understand the psychology of 'negative association'.
Another words: when you find something you like, or speaks what you've been feeling but couldn't express it yourself, when you say "this is it!": it tells something about the reader, not the writer.

Happiness is where you find it.

e.g. This is where he found it.
"There are times when _____ end up revealing a side of themselves to the outside world that is nothing to be proud of. Now is the time to show the world that we can be rational and objective and respectful of international pledges. It may prove the hardest thing we ever had to do."

Take out Korea and substitute whatever that the OP is forcing 'positive association': Japan? USA? Canada? Christianity? Alabama? Lady GaGa? We won't know, but OP knows. However, because the truth is usually not revealed but hidden behind what we say instead, we'll never know, would we? Anyway, that's where OP's true feelings lie.

So, unfortunately this only helps OP, not Korea.

[Smithington]

Good article. Every Korean should be forced to read it. If you teach adults here use it as a discussion topic. I'm not surprised that SR is all over this thread already. I'm just waiting for him to read this and write: "Why should Koreans be "forced" to read anything? Because you, Joe English teacher, say so? How would you feel if you were forced to read something against your will, in a language other than your native tongue, in your own country. You talk about freedom a lot, but you now wish to deny that freedom to Koreans. Have you never heard of the holocaust, football hooligans, and black men riding four deep in a stolen car? Would you try to force a black man who has just run a red light, to read anything you insisted upon? Would you walk up to a policeman and insist he read it? Why not? Consistency demands you make the cop read it, and if not drag him out of his car and throw metal objects at his loved ones. If you're going to force Koreans to do something, you have to force all Koreans...etc. etc. etc.

[Steelrails]

[Died By Bear]

Love the avatar, SR-A (A stands for Apologista)