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a great opinion piece: Hallyu beats Sushi
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:14 am    Post subject: a great opinion piece: Hallyu beats Sushi Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2013/11/386_146594.html

'Hallyu beats Sushi'

A great article that I wish I had written, since it's nothing less than music to the ears of our apologist brotherhood members. Alas, I am preoccupied planting Korean cabbages on Dokdo island, so no time for writing - yet.

I hope it will inspire you all!
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talentedcrayon



Joined: 27 Aug 2013
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article shifts mainly into criticizing the European welfare state. It seems like the author has some other agenda because his main points end up having little to do with Korean culture versus Japanese culture. Overall, the article is all over the place and poorly written.

Here's the real question though: Why let these people bother you?

People who deliriously believe Korea is a utopia compared to back home and people who depressingly believe Korea is a scab on the underside of North East Asia are equally annoying to me.

I don't listen to the detractors or the apologists. Other than on Dave's I rarely run into either.

Korea #78 - leave!

Korea #1 - leave me alone!

I have a little bit more "compassion" for Koreans who, having never left Korea, and having been brainwashed for 30 years, puff Korea up into something that it isn't. It's akin to the little kid on the playground who acts tough because he's getting bullied every day after school. I deal with them by nodding my head, and saying things like: "that's interesting" and "wow, four seasons eh? The closest thing we have to that back home is the hotel chain." Then, I change the subject to the never changing weather or my plans for the weekend. Typically, such conversations take up only a small amount of my time. I believe patience it a virtue, so I practice it with these people. There are many times in my life where I believed stupid things and others afforded me patience.
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

talentedcrayon wrote:
The article shifts mainly into criticizing the European welfare state. It seems like the author has some other agenda because his main points end up having little to do with Korean culture versus Japanese culture. Overall, the article is all over the place and poorly written.

Here's the real question though: Why let these people bother you?

People who deliriously believe Korea is a utopia compared to back home and people who depressingly believe Korea is a scab on the underside of North East Asia are equally annoying to me.

I don't listen to the detractors or the apologists. Other than on Dave's I rarely run into either.

Korea #78 - leave!

Korea #1 - leave me alone!

I have a little bit more "compassion" for Koreans who, having never left Korea, and having been brainwashed for 30 years, puff Korea up into something that it isn't. It's akin to the little kid on the playground who acts tough because he's getting bullied every day after school. I deal with them by nodding my head, and saying things like: "that's interesting" and "wow, four seasons eh? The closest thing we have to that back home is the hotel chain." Then, I change the subject to the never changing weather or my plans for the weekend. Typically, such conversations take up only a small amount of my time. I believe patience it a virtue, so I practice it with these people. There are many times in my life where I believed stupid things and others afforded me patience.


We, the apologist brotherhood, are not big fans of Europe and/or North America, so this article, by praising Korea while criticizing Japan and Europe (rightfully so!), manages to spread several Truths as once.

Since we believe in spreading only the factual Truth, mainly - the greatness of Korea and vast inferiority of every other nation/race/ethnicity, we applaud the author for managing to do so all in one concise and very sincere article.

While Korea Times represents the best of the world media and is often cited as having reached the pinnacle of journalistic integrity, I do wish that more other news outlets, Korean or otherwise, did the same thing by always checking facts and publishing the Truth.
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bossface



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

talentedcrayon wrote:

Korea #78 - leave!



There are somewhere between 195 and 210 countries in the world depending on the source. #78 isn't a bad ranking. It's in the top half. If money were no issue and I could live in any country, realistically Korea would be around my 78th choice. That's not to say I dislike Korea, in fact I like it a great deal.
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goreality



Joined: 09 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Korea it is common for a young man or woman of working age to live with their parents rent-free. This reduces costs and allows a young person the possibility of accepting a low-paying job to gain skills and experience.

Live at home for as long as possible and accept low paying jobs.
Sounds like a real winner.
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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Korea it is common for a young man or woman of working age to live with their parents rent-free. This reduces costs and allows a young person the possibility of accepting a low-paying job a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶r̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶e̶n̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶ ̶to gain skills and experience.
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wings wrote:
Quote:
In Korea it is common for a young man or woman of working age to live with their parents rent-free. This reduces costs and allows a young person the possibility of accepting a low-paying job a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶r̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶e̶n̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶ ̶to gain skills and experience.


@wings

Maybe the most brilliant and accurate post/response I've ever seen here.
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goreality



Joined: 09 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tophatcat wrote:
wings wrote:
Quote:
In Korea it is common for a young man or woman of working age to live with their parents rent-free. This reduces costs and allows a young person the possibility of accepting a low-paying job a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶r̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶e̶n̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶ ̶to gain skills and experience.


@wings

Maybe the most brilliant and accurate post/response I've ever seen here.

I don't know where you guys live but in the place I live, acquiring expensive shoes phones and handbags is the same as gaining skills and experience.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:
talentedcrayon wrote:
The article shifts mainly into criticizing the European welfare state. It seems like the author has some other agenda because his main points end up having little to do with Korean culture versus Japanese culture. Overall, the article is all over the place and poorly written.

Here's the real question though: Why let these people bother you?

People who deliriously believe Korea is a utopia compared to back home and people who depressingly believe Korea is a scab on the underside of North East Asia are equally annoying to me.

I don't listen to the detractors or the apologists. Other than on Dave's I rarely run into either.

Korea #78 - leave!

Korea #1 - leave me alone!

I have a little bit more "compassion" for Koreans who, having never left Korea, and having been brainwashed for 30 years, puff Korea up into something that it isn't. It's akin to the little kid on the playground who acts tough because he's getting bullied every day after school. I deal with them by nodding my head, and saying things like: "that's interesting" and "wow, four seasons eh? The closest thing we have to that back home is the hotel chain." Then, I change the subject to the never changing weather or my plans for the weekend. Typically, such conversations take up only a small amount of my time. I believe patience it a virtue, so I practice it with these people. There are many times in my life where I believed stupid things and others afforded me patience.


We, the apologist brotherhood, are not big fans of Europe and/or North America, so this article, by praising Korea while criticizing Japan and Europe (rightfully so!), manages to spread several Truths as once.

Since we believe in spreading only the factual Truth, mainly - the greatness of Korea and vast inferiority of every other nation/race/ethnicity, we applaud the author for managing to do so all in one concise and very sincere article.

While Korea Times represents the best of the world media and is often cited as having reached the pinnacle of journalistic integrity, I do wish that more other news outlets, Korean or otherwise, did the same thing by always checking facts and publishing the Truth.


The Ministry of Propaganda has been most diligent recently. Your appreciation is noted comrade. Let the Glorous Philosophy flow into every 1970s era Politburo designed apartment building in the Peninsula.
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right wing drivel.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like the author is trying to land a full-time job at the Korea Times. After all, who flames sushi?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goreality wrote:
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In Korea it is common for a young man or woman of working age to live with their parents rent-free. This reduces costs and allows a young person the possibility of accepting a low-paying job to gain skills and experience.

Live at home for as long as possible and accept low paying jobs.
Sounds like a real winner.


He did say that as a "positive" for Korean culture, didn't he? Maybe his parents just kicked him out and said "Get a job and move out, you loser."
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Lefil



Joined: 06 Nov 2013

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well, Koreans have problems with so much insecurity and things to “live up to”. Korea's most famous cultural export is...Gangnam style. Does anyone honestly think people will remenber it in 10 or 20 years time let alone 30 years or more. Japanese culture has been influential for a long time, and it still appeals to far more Westerners than Korean culture. I've liked many Japanese stuffs like Nintendo games since I was really young. Also many Japanese traditional things have become well-known, like Ninja, Samurai, Origami, Geisha. etc. Korea still have a long way to go to.
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sendittheemail



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent the following to the KT. I think they're going to hire me full time.

'Korea now quite important'
By Broke O’Traitor



Old people are dying in Japan, almost every day. The low class and unfashionable Japanese fish-food is literally poisoning them to death, according to leading important American experts. Meanwhile in modern, clean, Korea, super-intelligent babies are born all over the place, quite frequently. Kimchi, I have recently learned, from overhearing a conversation on the street, and according to strict fictional scientific tests, actually prevents nuclear accidents. Just by existing. If we add all these exciting things together and then subtract the Korea Discount, we have clear evidence of Koreas emerging bigness, brilliance and 'soft power'. And it also proves that the exciting K-pop wave phenomenon is alive and important. And bigger than all of us.

These days, people I barely know, or trust, tell me this all the time. Sometimes they whisper it in my ear when I'm asleep. Some vague friends of my parents living in London, Ontario, who work as Global Experts, told me the same thing over the phone. Just last month! They did. They breathlessly told me that they will only be eating Korean food in the future. Day and night.

Ok, they are Korean, but you get my point.

Maybe this happened two months back. But it definitely happened. A testament to deliciousness, a world wide trend being adopted by Koreans all over the world. And a very sad day for the inferior cuisines of other, less advanced, countries. That's science, and you can't argue with it, even with logic and reason. This shows that more people have heard of Korea than before, and that Apple is finished. Steve Jobs, the famous liar, is dead, and everyone knows he regularly ate Japanese food. Idiot.

Anyway. Because of the Death-in-Japan issue, more tourists will now come here, very soon, I expect, in surprising numbers. Many more shiny advanced hotels will have to be built in Seoul. People all over the world will be envious, and flock to Seoul to learn the truth about stuff from the wise and modest Koreans. Meanwhile, because of the Death-Wave in Japan, I assume they will have to literally blow all their hotels up. I don't think anyone would disagree, its obvious if you think about it. And maybe some of their factories too, just to be on the safe side. Maybe all their factories and most of their houses. Maybe all the hotels, factories and homes. I don't see why not.

This will mean that Korea is larger than before, and certainly more popular, if we use the world famous Bingham Elastic Cat Method of measuring relative imagined importance. We have so much more to learn from Korean kids, it's frightening. It's like a big really crazy adventure, but without a script or a map. Or, if there was a map, it's written in Hangul, and we are not bright enough to understand it. Honest. Ok, will that do?

Can I have the money/*beep*/job now. Please, sir.
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cabeza



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Meanwhile in modern, clean, Korea, super-intelligent babies are born all over the place, quite frequently.



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If we add all these exciting things together and then subtract the Korea Discount, we have clear evidence of Koreas emerging bigness, brilliance and 'soft power'.


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These days, people I barely know, or trust, tell me this all the time. Sometimes they whisper it in my ear when I'm asleep. Some vague friends of my parents living in London, Ontario, who work as Global Experts, told me the same thing over the phone. Just last month! They did. They breathlessly told me that they will only be eating Korean food in the future. Day and night.




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Brilliant! Give the man a job.
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