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[I'm With You]

I published several articles last year and this year in several south east Asian countries including Vietnam, Indonesia and Taiwan and the Philippines. Most are conference proceedings and university scholarly journals in English / Lit. / Linguistics.

However, my dept. head has recently advised me that they cannot accept these as bona fide publications, even though they are peer reviwed articles in TESOL journals.

His final comment was something like, "We Koreans tend to look down on those countries, so we can't really recognize those papers."

In order to apply for my publication award, which is not insignificant, I need to have those papers recognized and accepted. Otherwise, I receive nothing.

The funny thing is, if I had had thoose papers published in the uni rag where I work, I'd have had them recognized and accepted, likely.

Any advice or suggestions, other than to only publish in Korea?

At any rate, I'm starting to think it's time for an exit strategy.

[HapKi]

I would need more information to understand your situation.
However, conference proceedings typically aren't weighted as strongly as papers published in blind peer-reviewed subject related journals.
Hoping to present at the conference is what normally is submitted for review and acceptance (a 200 word or so proposal or abstract), and the extended paper in the preceedings, if any, is not peer-reviewed at all.
This would be a bit of a red flag for me.
And a lot of times, conferences don't even publish the preceedings in full, or just publish the abstracts.
Does it count as published, I would say yes. But it sounds like your school doesn't accept proceedings as journal publications (many don't, and normally not for promotion). His final comments sound kinda weak, though.

[johnny_russian]

unfortunately i can't offer any advice for your current situation.

but in the future, ask your university if they have a list of journals that they recognize, and then only publish in those journals. your university might well have something like that. for example, when i worked at a university in my home country we had a research subsidy list of journals, and you would only get money from the university put into your research subsidy if you published articles in journals on that list.

[Brooks]

It happens in Japan.
A Canadian I know published something in a journal in Taiwan and it was rejected
even though I think it was peer reviewed.

In Japan I think conference proccedings for the national JALT conference are peer reviewed and can be rejected.
Getting an abstract accepted for a presentation is pretty tough as about 800 teachers sent in abtracts last year.

[ThePoet]

Tell him you fully understand, because when you've listed papers you've published in Korean Journals when applying for American jobs, they've told you the same thing...watch him come to a slow boil or fast explosion when he realizes what he's been told.

[salutbonjour]

Local article in a country where the scientific standards are lower? Straight to the garbage.

Try to find them online. If you can't, resubmit in a local Korean journal or something similar with low academic standards.

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