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Jackhammer96
Joined: 30 Oct 2013
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: Living in a small town (is it fun?) |
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Just wondering, what is it like to live in a small town in South Korea? Is it fun?
I am a little worried about moving to South Korea, as I am starting to think that the culture may not be for me. I may be more open to moving to a big city however. The fact is, it is a big commitment, going to Korea for a year, and I need to make sure I am comfortable making a big decision like this.
Time away from my family is a big factor of my concern. I am starting to think I might be more comfortable going somewhere on holidays for a few months only, South Korea or not.
One of the factors I worry about is ending up being single out there. I know the dating culture is more conservative anyway (is that the right way to describe it?), but the idea of living in a small conservative town, with a lacking dating culture, is something I fear. Large cities, are obviously better for this.
I am considering a large town approximately between 300, 000 and 500, 000, (i.e. Jinju) but I am still unsure about this.
Can anyone give me advice on this? Is it possible to adapt to such circumstances? i.e. traveling to more towns and cities.
This is a big worry for me. |
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Why is being single such a worry? What about the culture do you think may not be for you? Why do you want to come to Korea?
I'm going to make a huge assumption here but from the sound of your post and your concerns I don't think you're ready to commit to 1 year abroad. |
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Janny

Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Location: all over the place
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, dear.
Please do yourself and BIG favour and get a job in Seoul. From your post I think you have no understanding of what you'll be facing in your time in South Korea.
South Korea is a racist country, and yes there are many foreigners there but you need to have a buffer to protect you from the many, many discomforts, misadventures and unfriendly interactions you will face. That means having a friend or two right off the bat from your school. It also means having a place to go (restaurant, shopping center, park, whatever) that you enjoy and can go to when things get sad.
You will not easily find these things in a small city. The parks are small, barren of grass and have thin, sad trees and large freaky cartoon character signage everywhere. The shopping centers are small and filled with cookie-cutter name brands highjacked from China or the West and sized far too small for the typical Western body. The Korean restaurants are filled with diners who will stare openly or discreetly at you while you eat...and assuming you like Korean food, that may be your only pleasure source (it was dweji galbi and kimchee for me). In Seoul, these problems are eliminated. Lots of options for the foreigner tastes and needs.
People who are comfortable spending time alone, who enjoy the trials and discomforts (as a 'challenge myself' sort) of learning a new culture and language, who have already traveled, who have a thick skin and roll with things easily...they can make it in non-Seoul Korea.
I was NOT one of those people. The ugliness of the buildings, the poorly-planned environments, the crowded cacophony of bling-bling avenues and open-sewer sidewalks, the relentless staring of young and old, the insecure, infantile interactions I had with everyday Koreans, the idiotic lack of logic and rationality, the laughing in my face when I tried to speak Korean.....the list is long.
I coped by securing a great, large apartment and a great job. I rescued a shelter cat and brought her home with me. The lightning fast internet ensures that you are able to foster a rich online 'life' so to speak (Skype, games, downloaded TV and movies, chatting, community forums..). In Seoul, I found a few places to go to eat that made me happy (in Itaewon, the foreigner district) and places to shop for food that also satisfied me (Costco, Itaewon). Itaewon and Hongdae, in Seoul, were always places with large concentrations of foreigners on any given evening when I felt like socializing. Not hard at all to meet friends and lovers there. There is a large social network of foreigners and Koreans, forming clubs and groups and meet-ups...but it's based in Seoul. All the best cultural offerings (performance, music, art) are in Seoul.
There is none of this...well, very little of this...outside of Seoul. My first year was in Gwangju, southern Korea, a larger city but still nothing like Seoul. I was MISERABLE for one full year and then I went back to Canada. As a teacher who needed a job, I went back to Korea, but chose Seoul. It made a huge difference and I ended up staying for a long time.
Good luck. If you can, choose China. That's my final piece of advice. I'm there now after many years in Korea and it's completely cool. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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That's right, small towns are no fun. In fact Korea is no fun except for USFK bases.
1. Korea is not Disneyland.
2. Busan is not Miami
3. You'll be coming here to work. Granted, all work and no play gives you blueballs, but there are treatments for that.
Put it simply: If you rely on other people to amuse yourself, then working overseas in a non-English speaking world is tough. Coming to Korea should be about you becoming self-reliant. Does that scare you? It ought to be.  |
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mayorhaggar
Joined: 01 Jan 2013
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I live in a rural town of about 20,000. I've lived in big cities for the last 10 years (Chicago, LA, San Francisco, Oakland) so when I was assigned this town I was pretty worried that it would really suck. But in general it hasn't been too bad. There's actually a few really good restaurants in town though otherwise there's nothing to do here. Getting out of town requires an 80 minute bus ride to the nearest big cities, then you can transfer to a bus or train. Seoul or Busan both take about 3 hours to get to in total...not great but at least it splits the difference.
Definitely having a boyfriend/girlfriend or close friends you can hang out with is key. A small town will have fewer foreigners and thus fewer chances to meet interesting people, and you may be an hour or more away from the nearest big city. I wouldn't depend on dating Koreans or making friends with them, lots of foreigners do it but it's not for everyone.
If you don't think you can hack it in a small town then by all means do what you can to end up in a bigger town. If you apply to EPIK and don't want to run the risk of being in a small out of the way town, apply to the provincial level cities: Busan, Daegu, Daejeon, Gwangju, Incheon and Seoul. They'll be more competitive but they do hire a lot of people. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my reply from the "Off-Topic Forum" on the same subject:
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My worst nightmare is living in rural Korea. Urban Korea has severe cultural, intellectual and material limitations. Rural Korea would be absolutely egregious, atrocious and untenable. |
The thread is here: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=230757
Also, people who claim to go to Seoul on the weekend (because they basically have to, to have fun) say that they can just get the bus or train back. Sure, this is no problem if you don't mind leaving the group at 10 or 11PM when the party is just getting going. If you want to stay "cultural", go rural. If you want to stay sane and have fun, stay in big cities, preferably, Seoul. |
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mayorhaggar
Joined: 01 Jan 2013
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I like living in cities but I'd go insane in Seoul, too many people, too many cars, too much pollution.
If I had my pick I guess I'd have tried harder to get into a city like Busan or at least Daejeon. But in my rural Chungbuk town I really like my school, my apartment isn't horrible (I have a bathtub and a shower curtain, omg!) and the people I work with are really great, and I've met some great people in the town. All that stuff is a huge gamble here and I feel like I kind of lucked out on that stuff.
Main thing I miss about city living is being able to go to any of dozens of good restaurants for dinner. But I go to Seoul or Busan or other places every other weekend and get my fill of urban dining and shopping. |
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Cacille
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I live in a little larger town, 44,000 people.
What Janny said is completely true when it comes to the "people who are comfortable spending time alone...." part.
The rest is her opinion, but definitely that part is TRUE.
I happen to be one of those people so small town life is fine. My town is also growing, has a few good americanized restaurants (4. Total, not counting pizza or chicken places).
The food mart here keeps getting better and better too, in just a year it's improved by leaps and bounds! So if you're in a rural but nice sized town and you are the type of person Janny said, you'll probably do fine. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Living in a small town (is it fun?) |
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TJ85 wrote: |
Just wondering, what is it like to live in a small town in South Korea? Is it fun? |
It's a shock at first, but as long as it has some amenities (a few By The Ways, Family Marts etc and some nice greasy spoons, some kind of cultural center) and a relatively large school it will grow on you. My city ,15,000, had an ancient fortress in the backyard (almost literally) on a hill (why they haven't protected some of the structures there is beyond me) and a nice area to walk around along with a bowling alley and some decent cheap restaurants where you could sit and enjoy a Korean meal. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Janny wrote: |
Oh, dear.
South Korea is a racist country, and yes there are many foreigners there but you need to have a buffer to protect you from the many, many discomforts, misadventures and unfriendly interactions you will face. That means having a friend or two right off the bat from your school. It also means having a place to go (restaurant, shopping center, park, whatever) that you enjoy and can go to when things get sad.
You will not easily find these things in a small city. The parks are small, barren of grass and have thin, sad trees and large freaky cartoon character signage everywhere. The shopping centers are small and filled with cookie-cutter name brands highjacked from China or the West and sized far too small for the typical Western body. The Korean restaurants are filled with diners who will stare openly or discreetly at you while you eat...and assuming you like Korean food, that may be your only pleasure source (it was dweji galbi and kimchee for me). In Seoul, these problems are eliminated. Lots of options for the foreigner tastes and needs.
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Actually, the really small towns (Under 70,000) are the ones where some of Korea's problems are the least likely to happen, and the smaller they are, the less severe they are.
Racism and loneliness. The fact is, in a small town, you are probably going to have only 1-3 elementary schools. That means nearly 33-100% of the population is going to have some sort of tie to your school and its students. Why? In small towns, everyone knows each other and you don't have 6 degrees of separation, maybe 3 at the most. If you do a good job, and are friendly and outgoing, those parents will become very interested in you and supportive. Achieving 'minor local celebrity C-list' status is not out of the question. Now, this does mean you lose a degree of privacy, but people tend to be much more patient and welcoming. Random rides, gifts, food, waves, smiles, etc. will become regular occurrences. Dating? Yes, the pool is smaller. However, the "c-blocking" (aka why isn't her boyfriend letting me bang her while I'm drunk) that is hyped here seems to be much lower in the small cities. Make friends with some good Korean guys or ladies and build up a relationship and sooner or later you'll get a "Hey, I wanted you to meet my friend...". People might stare at first, but most will get used to you rather quickly. And if people stare at you, so what? Do what famous people do and just ignore it and them.
Meeting other foreigners. From what I've seen in other small towns and from what I've heard from other people in big cities, is that it can be kinda easier making friends in small towns. The fact is in a small town you might have 6-20 foreigners at most. You WILL get invited out. A big city? Dozens, hundreds. And all with established groups. Sometimes it can be a bit intimidating for some people. But hey, when there's only 10 foreigners and everyone eats dinner together, whole nother story. It's like family- you're stuck together and have to make the best of it, but people are loyal and generous.
Recreation and Parks. I don't know what she's talking about when she says "barren parks". You're in the countryside, the place is literally one big park every other mountain and valley. And even our small town park was exceptional, with a great bike route, soccer pitches, picnic greens, basketball courts, pavilions, fountains, etc.
Shopping. This isn't some backwater. Famous brands are available for food, clothing, and other goods. Prices can be a bit high. AS for sizes, if you're a guy or girl and not exceptionally tall or exceptionally rotund, you can find clothes. Somehow the tall and fat Koreans do as well. If you want to do some serious shopping, take a bus on the weekend to the nearest big city and grab some groceries and clothes. Some lazy people might whine and moan about this likes its some unimaginable burden, but its not. Get a car or carpool with someone else if you want to follow your own schedule. Food? GMarket/NiceDeli/EZ Shop. In fact, GMarket for just about anything non-clothing or highly perishable and specialized. 2 day shipping free. Lowest prices in the country.
Partying. No, you won't be leaving the party at 12 on the weekends to get back. What are you? A Korean that lives with their parents? People party on Friday and Saturday. That means the next day is part of this thing called "The weekend". Just get the midnight bus outta Seoul on Sunday night and you're all good. After 48 hours of heavy drinking and partying, you should be wanting some calm and quiet anyways.
The big problems- Restaurants. Gotta get a Seoul fix. But that just means you go eat REALLY nice foreign food on the weekends, rather than a daily diet of mediocrity. Hit up a hotel breakfast buffet. Drop some coin on a gourmet Sushi place. Better that than 10-20 bucks everyday on mediocre stuff that wouldn't pass muster back home. Clubbing. Duh. Movies and entertainment. Sports. Clubs (like hobbies). Oh, and cigar and scotch bars. Jazz bars. Sports bars. Not much in the way of them.
Now, unless you are a serious baseball fanatic, not being able to see the Lotte Giants 5 nights a week (It's Korea, there's always at least 1 rainout a week) live might not seem like a big deal, but to some it is. Clubbing and movies are generally weekend stuff to do anyways. Musicals, jazz, and classical music performances are some of the biggies that I miss as well as baseball. Need Seoul for that. The other big one is hobby clubs.
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People who are comfortable spending time alone, who enjoy the trials and discomforts (as a 'challenge myself' sort) of learning a new culture and language, who have already traveled, who have a thick skin and roll with things easily...they can make it in non-Seoul Korea.
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In other words, people who aren't clingy and desperate for attention, who don't fold at the first sign of difficulty and like to explore, who didn't grow up sheltered, who don't get offended at the slightest thing, who don't move around the world and expect the people in the new country to cater to their every whim and make them happy, and can admit to their mistakes and learn from them...they can make it in non-Seoul Korea. |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Living in a small town (is it fun?) |
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TJ85 wrote: |
Just wondering, what is it like to live in a small town in South Korea? Is it fun?
I am a little worried about moving to South Korea, as I am starting to think that the culture may not be for me. I may be more open to moving to a big city however. The fact is, it is a big commitment, going to Korea for a year, and I need to make sure I am comfortable making a big decision like this.
Time away from my family is a big factor of my concern. I am starting to think I might be more comfortable going somewhere on holidays for a few months only, South Korea or not.
One of the factors I worry about is ending up being single out there. I know the dating culture is more conservative anyway (is that the right way to describe it?), but the idea of living in a small conservative town, with a lacking dating culture, is something I fear. Large cities, are obviously better for this.
I am considering a large town approximately between 300, 000 and 500, 000, (i.e. Jinju) but I am still unsure about this.
Can anyone give me advice on this? Is it possible to adapt to such circumstances? i.e. traveling to more towns and cities.
This is a big worry for me. |
I can recommend Jinju as a pretty decent place to live -- I did my first contract there. There's a relatively small (~100 give or take) but tight-knit foreigner community there, two movie theaters, E-Mart, Homeplus, and at least a few bars that cater to foreigners. It's definitely worth it if you can find a decent position there. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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You know what non-Koreans in small Korean cities do? They say hello to you when you come across them in the street. Seoul long ago hit the point where you're just another face to be ignored unless I know you.
All this "life is hell in Korea outside of Seoul" nonsense comes from antisocial people who just don't know how to have fun. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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What the last half-a-dozen or so posters said.
As for myself personally, I enjoy living in small towns. Granted it's not for everyone. But it suits me just fine. To list just one thing. More opportunities for me to practice my Korean...even if I do get the shocked face "you can speak Korean?" look at odd times. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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If you're under 30 I'd stick to the cities of say 500,000+ people, after 30 you are more comfortable being alone. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Living in a small town (is it fun?) |
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TJ85 wrote: |
Just wondering, what is it like to live in a small town in South Korea? Is it fun?
I am a little worried about moving to South Korea, as I am starting to think that the culture may not be for me. I may be more open to moving to a big city however. The fact is, it is a big commitment, going to Korea for a year, and I need to make sure I am comfortable making a big decision like this.
Time away from my family is a big factor of my concern. I am starting to think I might be more comfortable going somewhere on holidays for a few months only, South Korea or not.
One of the factors I worry about is ending up being single out there. I know the dating culture is more conservative anyway (is that the right way to describe it?), but the idea of living in a small conservative town, with a lacking dating culture, is something I fear. Large cities, are obviously better for this.
I am considering a large town approximately between 300, 000 and 500, 000, (i.e. Jinju) but I am still unsure about this.
Can anyone give me advice on this? Is it possible to adapt to such circumstances? i.e. traveling to more towns and cities.
This is a big worry for me. |
first of all, don't listen to janny. what a jaded person. she constantly posts about how awful life was here for her even after moving to china. she apparently had a lot of problems but it sounds like many of them probably stemmed from her negative attitude. plus from her complaining about the clothes and the staring i'd guess she might have been one of the larger unattractive gals that often come here.
anyways, i personally think small towns anywhere in the world are boring as hell. ones in south korea tend to be more fun because they at least are just like the rest of korea in the fact that they are 24-7 and everything doesn't close up shop at 9pm or they don't have ridiculous alcohol laws barring sales after midnite etc and you don't need to have a car anywhere.
as for dating, it's not hard anywhere you go here depending on the type of person you are. south korea does put a large deal of pressure on appearance and many of the foreigners that have lived all their lives dressing as if they jumped in a refuse bin and put on the first thing they saw have a hard time with it. if you are well dressed and take care of your physical appearance you will instantly have a leg up on many of the foreigners here. if you are tall and handsome/pretty, well you can pretty much date all the koreans you can fit on your schedule, small town or big.
as others have said if you are concerned about a small town then it might not be a good idea for you. my suggestion would be a satellite city outside of seoul that you can easily go to seoul if you want but also be in a more smaller tightly knit environment. such a community would be anyang south of seoul. |
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